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Charlotte, I'd love to help as I have gone about as far as I can with my tree and you wouldn't want me to get bored, send me a pm if you like.

Have to go and make lunch now
Regards Jennifer

When will the 1911 census be released then?

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No, the certificate as far as my aunt can remember (my aunt was the grand daughter of William Henry Carter) has no father on it. Although my grandad may have it I shall get him to look for it. I think I will speak to William's last remaining son and ask if he remembers his grandparents or anything of them.

Thank you for your help it is very much appreciated I had started to give up hope, until I read the success stories on the message boards. I do have another relative I am struggling to find if you would be kind enough to help?

Many thanks
Charlotte

Charlotte, you may have to wait till 1911 census comes out to get any more accurate info.

I don't want to rush time on but I am waiting for it to find out what happened to a great aunt who was in care in 1901!!

Charlotte, I think you may have found him, but even if you got the cert it may not tell you his father's name.

Jennifer

Thank you,

This is becoming very interesting. I'm wondering how I can confirm this is the William Carter I am searching for. How accurate do you think this match is.

Many Thanks
xx

The two families must have known each other, as William Eyles was born Lamburn, Berks as was William Carter senior and Charles Eyles who was boarding with him in 1881 seems to be the father of William Eyles.

There is a Sarah Eyles with the family in 1891 age 13, she must be the sister of William Eyles, not daugh.

1891:
William Eyles
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambourn, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Lambourn
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels or Lambourn Church
Town: Lambourn
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Hungerford
Sub registration district: Lambourn
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Eyles 15
>>>Charles Eyles 48 father
Earoline Eyles 10
Frederick Eyles 9
Henry Eyles 12
Kate Eyles 5
Mary Eyles 42
Mary Eyles 2
>>>Sarah Eyles 13
>>>William Eyles 18

There is a William Henry Carter, registered in Jan, Feb, March quarter of 1896. Perhaps his birth wasn't registered straight away.

Vol 4a pg 113.

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I did wonder how it was possible for Sarah to be William Eyles' daughter, this was confusing me, but makes sense now.

Am looking for the birth

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Hi, I was just looking at previous census returns and in 1881 William Carter born Lamburn is a boarder in a house in West Ham and one of the other boarders is called Charles Eyles.

Charlotte, that's what it looks like but I still can't find a birth for William Henry Carter/Eyles, can you?
Did you not that Kate was born Staffordshire and William Carter senior in Lamburn, Berks.

Also I haven't worked out who Sarah Eyles born 1878, Lamburn is. It says she is 'daug' but she can't be William Eyles daug as he is too young, as she is born Lamburn she is probably William Carter's daug and the enumerator or someone else has enetred the wrong surname.

Yes I looked yesterday. So in that case are we saying that William was born out of wedlock and then Kate and William married?

thank you for your help
xx

Charlott have you looked at the actual image? It does say that William H Carter is son in relationship to the head of the household who is William Eyles.

This happened to me with my grandmother, her name was Lawson but she is daughter to John Betts on the image, she was illegetimate but hturned out to be her father

Marriages Jun 1899

>>>CARTER Kate Elizabeth W. Ham 4a 311
Eybs William W. Ham 4a 311
>>>Eyles William W. Ham 4a 311
Hill Ellen W. Ham 4a 311
Wicks Alfred W. Ham 4a 311

Thats the information I looked at yesterday and it would seem most feesible, so in that case Kate Eyles was a Carter by maiden name rather than by marriage. Could this also mean that William Carter was not William Eyles' biological son?
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Charlotte, the only way to see parent's names is to buy the birth certificate but if he was illegitimate the father's name probably won't be on it.

Jennifer

Thank you, perhaps that is him. How do I go about finding the other information like mother's and father's name? Do you know if people on here can look at the actual Birth certificate to get this information for me?

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Re above 1901 census:RG13; Piece: 1580; Folio: 19; Page: 29.


if you look at the image then William H Carter is the son of William Eyles and Kate C Eyles.
William Carter age 49 is father in law so must be the father of Kate.

Jennifer

Possible marriage record for father and mother?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about William Henry Carter
Name: William Henry Carter
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 156

Record
Eliza Elizabeth Carr 1892 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Essex, Greater London
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William Henry Carter 1892 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Essex, Greater London
View Record
Sarah Annie Riding 1892 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Essex, Greater London

1901;

William H Carter
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Kate C
Gender: Male
Where born: West Ham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Essex
Country: England



Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 173
Household Members: Name Age
Rebecca Carter 14
William Carter 49
William Carter 20
William H Carter 5
Kate C Eyles 25
Robert C Eyles 1
Sarah Eyles 23
William Eyles 27