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Birth c1857 Notts

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Gillian

Gillian Report 18 Aug 2008 14:44

Sarah Bennet born Nottingham c1857(ish).

Can anyone please help find her birth records please.

(Or pos find her in the 1861/71 census)
Many thanks

June

June Report 18 Aug 2008 14:51

Births Dec 1856 (>99%)
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Bennett Sarah Radford 7b 159
Bennett Sarah Jane Worksop 7b 36

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Births Dec 1857 (>99%)
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Bennett Sarah Southwell 7b 275



any of theses any good to you


June x

Sharon

Sharon Report 18 Aug 2008 15:10

hi gillian
who are her parents? ill have a look on baptism disc for her
sharon

Gillian

Gillian Report 18 Aug 2008 15:28

I am tracing the Mann family from Leicester, and know that Sarah married Walter Mann - I dont yet have the marriage cert, but the 1881 cenus, says that she was born in Nottingham

Marriage: marriage vol 7a 268 Leicester. July Sept qtr 1876

Census
1881 51 Gray St. Leicester.
Walter J. 23. Shoe Finisher. Born Leicester
Sarah A. 2. Born Nottingham
Ann M E 3 \Born Leicester
Walter J. 1. Born Leicester.
Think Sarah is 22 here, in 1881.

I believe that this is her death:
Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%)
-Mann Sarah Ann 41 Leicester 7a 169

Gillian

Gillian Report 18 Aug 2008 15:38

Hi June - thanks for your help,

If I had to choose 1 to investigate further, from the 3 that you have given me, I would go for:

Births Dec 1857 (>99%)
Bennett Sarah Southwell 7b 275

( does it give parents info) - I am guessing that her mother may be an Ann?

I am looking for a Sarah Ann Bennet, from Notts, so the Radford one is Coventry(?)
And the other one is Sarah Jane.

Gillian

Gillian Report 18 Aug 2008 16:01

Sarah Ann - born Nottingham - looks like shes a very 'probable' - thank you.

I wonder if its pos to find this family in the 1861 & 1871 census?

Sometimes, the smallest detail can help one to elimanate a person ( or not)
thanks again
Gill

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 18 Aug 2008 17:01

The only Sarah Ann Bennett on the indexes for Nottinghamshire for 1858/9/60 is

Sarah Ann Bennett
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bingham
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 337

If she was born March and registered the following quarter then it would make her 22 on the 1881 census (and 32 as she is on the 1891)

Andy

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 18 Aug 2008 17:03

1861

right registration area

Sarah A Bennett
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Keyworth, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Keyworth
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bingham
Sub registration district: Ratcliffe on Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Bennett 14
Elizabeth Bennett 47
George Bennett 21
Samuel Bennett 58
Sarah A Bennett 2

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2486; Folio: 97; Page: 32; GSU roll: 542978.

Andy

Glen In Tinsel Knickers

Glen In Tinsel Knickers Report 18 Aug 2008 18:02

There uis a Radford in Notts, and the Radford 7b reference is the registration district for Radford, Nottinghamshire.

If you go to freebmd, find a birth and click on the reg district it gives you details about the district.

The references are just from the index, if you want the names of the parents you would have to get the certificate or find a baptism.

Gillian

Gillian Report 19 Aug 2008 11:04

Andy- only just pricked up the replies - thank you so much.

Did the census give any occupations / address please?
thanks again
Gill

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 19 Aug 2008 12:32

Gill
Could this one be a possibility 1871 census, on the record she is living at Eldon St. Sneinton Nottingham, reg District Radford Nottingham,Her occupation is Lace worker.

Her mother Mary Bowman described as a widow.

Name: Sarah Bennett
[Sarah Bowman]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Snenton, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Snenton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Radford
Sub registration district: Snenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Able 18
John Bennett 18
Mary Bennett 26
Sarah Bennett 16
Mary Bowman 55


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Gillian

Gillian Report 19 Aug 2008 12:42

Hi George
Dont think the census you found is of MY Sarah...
This is what I have so far:

FACT:
marriage vol 7a 268 Leicester. July Sept qtr 1876

Census
1881 51 Gray St. Leicester.
Walter J. 23. Shoe Finisher. Born Leicester
Sarah A. 2. Born Nottingham
Ann M E 3 \Born Leicester
Walter J. 1. Born Leicester.
Think Sarah is 22 here, in 1881.

Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%)
-Mann Sarah Ann 41 Leicester 7a 169

NOT CONFIRMED _ BUT VERY PROBABLE:

The only Sarah Ann Bennett on the Birth indexes for Nottinghamshire for 1858/9/60 is
Sarah Ann Bennett Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bingham
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b Page: 337 (not confirmed)
If she was born March and registered the following quarter then it would make her 22 on the 1881 census (and 32 as she is on the 1891)

1861 Census: Pos / probable (not confirmed)

right registration area ( Bingham)

Sarah A Bennett
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Keyworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Keyworth
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Registration district: Bingham
Sub registration district: Ratcliffe on Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Bennett 14
Elizabeth Bennett 47
George Bennett 21
Samuel Bennett 58
Sarah A Bennett 2
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2486; Folio: 97; Page: 32; GSU roll: 542978.

If I could find Sarah (and or her family) in 2 or 3 census giving occupations & addresses - I can probably ensure that I am 'following' the right person.

Thanks for your help
Gill
ps: Sarah Bennet is my great grandmother & I know nothing about her / her family yet.


Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 19 Aug 2008 15:18

How about this for Sarah in 1871??

Sarah Ann Bennett Grocock
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Keyworth
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members: Name Age
John Grocock 31 b Ratcliffe insurance agent
Mary Ann Grocock 32 b Bradmore charwoman
Sarah Ann Bennett Grocock 13

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3511; Folio: 62; Page: 28; GSU roll: 839747.


marriage

Mary Ann Bennett/John Grocock
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Radford
County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 211


1851

Mary Ann Bennett
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradmore, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradmore
Town: Bradmore
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Elijah Bennett 20 framework knitter
Eliza Bennett 7
Elizabeth Bennett 36
George Bennett 13 winder
Mary Ann Bennett 9 seamer
Samuel Bennett 66 (image says 46) farm lab
Willm Bennett 15 winder

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2128; Folio: 479; Page: 4; GSU roll: 87758.

all born Bradmore except Elizabeth b Quorndon, Leics

places of birth all same as 1861

cannot find Mary on 1861

Andy

Gillian

Gillian Report 19 Aug 2008 15:48

Hi Andy - Thank you so much for your help.

I have a question:

Sarah Bennet in 1871 is 13yrs old ( so she was born c1858) & her parents are Mary Bennet & John Grocock

Mary & John didnt get married until 1867.- some
9 yrs after Sarah was born???

Gillian

Gillian Report 19 Aug 2008 15:53

We know that Sarah (aged 2) was living with her grandparents ( Marys Parents) in the 1861 census and we know that Mary wasnt on the census with em - so,
is it pos please to look for John Grocock in the 1861 census to see where he was? Maybe, Mary was with him - and if not where was she ............?

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 19 Aug 2008 17:40

I think this is John in 1861

John Growcock
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Ratcliffe, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkestone
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Growcock 20 butcher's lad
Hannah Hopkinson 19 servant
Ann Turton 31
John Turton 37 butcher

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2435; Folio: 43; Page: 3; GSU roll: 542970.

I have tried everything I can think of but cannot find Mary.

I think it is quite likely that John is not Sarah's father - what has she put on her marriage cert?

Andy

Gillian

Gillian Report 20 Aug 2008 09:52

Hi Andy

I havent got the marriage cert yet, so am looking for more clues at the mo ........

Wonder where Mary was in 1861.???

Either she was with the babys father / fathers family ( if John is not Sarahs father) ..or, with other relatives, (but then why leave a 2yrs old with her parents)..... or she was in hospital - bit unlikely - or she was in prison???

Any ideas how I can eliminate prison / hospital??

Thanks again
regards
Gill