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Gillian
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18 Aug 2008 14:44 |
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Sarah Bennet born Nottingham c1857(ish).
Can anyone please help find her birth records please.
(Or pos find her in the 1861/71 census) Many thanks
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18 Aug 2008 14:51 |
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Births Dec 1856 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bennett Sarah Radford 7b 159 Bennett Sarah Jane Worksop 7b 36
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1857 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bennett Sarah Southwell 7b 275
any of theses any good to you
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18 Aug 2008 15:10 |
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hi gillian who are her parents? ill have a look on baptism disc for her sharon
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Gillian
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18 Aug 2008 15:28 |
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I am tracing the Mann family from Leicester, and know that Sarah married Walter Mann - I dont yet have the marriage cert, but the 1881 cenus, says that she was born in Nottingham
Marriage: marriage vol 7a 268 Leicester. July Sept qtr 1876
Census 1881 51 Gray St. Leicester. Walter J. 23. Shoe Finisher. Born Leicester Sarah A. 2. Born Nottingham Ann M E 3 \Born Leicester Walter J. 1. Born Leicester. Think Sarah is 22 here, in 1881.
I believe that this is her death: Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%) -Mann Sarah Ann 41 Leicester 7a 169
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Gillian
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18 Aug 2008 15:38 |
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Hi June - thanks for your help,
If I had to choose 1 to investigate further, from the 3 that you have given me, I would go for:
Births Dec 1857 (>99%) Bennett Sarah Southwell 7b 275
( does it give parents info) - I am guessing that her mother may be an Ann?
I am looking for a Sarah Ann Bennet, from Notts, so the Radford one is Coventry(?) And the other one is Sarah Jane.
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Gillian
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18 Aug 2008 16:01 |
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Sarah Ann - born Nottingham - looks like shes a very 'probable' - thank you.
I wonder if its pos to find this family in the 1861 & 1871 census?
Sometimes, the smallest detail can help one to elimanate a person ( or not) thanks again Gill
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Ajwyorks
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18 Aug 2008 17:01 |
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The only Sarah Ann Bennett on the indexes for Nottinghamshire for 1858/9/60 is
Sarah Ann Bennett Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Bingham County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 337
If she was born March and registered the following quarter then it would make her 22 on the 1881 census (and 32 as she is on the 1891)
Andy
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Ajwyorks
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18 Aug 2008 17:03 |
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1861
right registration area
Sarah A Bennett Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Keyworth, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Keyworth County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Bingham Sub registration district: Ratcliffe on Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 102 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Bennett 14 Elizabeth Bennett 47 George Bennett 21 Samuel Bennett 58 Sarah A Bennett 2 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2486; Folio: 97; Page: 32; GSU roll: 542978.
Andy
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Glen In Tinsel Knickers
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18 Aug 2008 18:02 |
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There uis a Radford in Notts, and the Radford 7b reference is the registration district for Radford, Nottinghamshire.
If you go to freebmd, find a birth and click on the reg district it gives you details about the district.
The references are just from the index, if you want the names of the parents you would have to get the certificate or find a baptism.
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Gillian
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19 Aug 2008 11:04 |
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Andy- only just pricked up the replies - thank you so much.
Did the census give any occupations / address please? thanks again Gill
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19 Aug 2008 12:32 |
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Gill Could this one be a possibility 1871 census, on the record she is living at Eldon St. Sneinton Nottingham, reg District Radford Nottingham,Her occupation is Lace worker.
Her mother Mary Bowman described as a widow.
Name: Sarah Bennett [Sarah Bowman] Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Snenton, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Snenton County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Radford Sub registration district: Snenton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Henry Able 18 John Bennett 18 Mary Bennett 26 Sarah Bennett 16 Mary Bowman 55 View Original Record
View original image View blank form
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Gillian
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19 Aug 2008 12:42 |
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Hi George Dont think the census you found is of MY Sarah... This is what I have so far:
FACT: marriage vol 7a 268 Leicester. July Sept qtr 1876
Census 1881 51 Gray St. Leicester. Walter J. 23. Shoe Finisher. Born Leicester Sarah A. 2. Born Nottingham Ann M E 3 \Born Leicester Walter J. 1. Born Leicester. Think Sarah is 22 here, in 1881.
Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%) -Mann Sarah Ann 41 Leicester 7a 169
NOT CONFIRMED _ BUT VERY PROBABLE:
The only Sarah Ann Bennett on the Birth indexes for Nottinghamshire for 1858/9/60 is Sarah Ann Bennett Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Bingham County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 337 (not confirmed) If she was born March and registered the following quarter then it would make her 22 on the 1881 census (and 32 as she is on the 1891)
1861 Census: Pos / probable (not confirmed)
right registration area ( Bingham)
Sarah A Bennett Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Keyworth, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Keyworth County/Island: Nottinghamshire Registration district: Bingham Sub registration district: Ratcliffe on Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 102 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Bennett 14 Elizabeth Bennett 47 George Bennett 21 Samuel Bennett 58 Sarah A Bennett 2 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2486; Folio: 97; Page: 32; GSU roll: 542978.
If I could find Sarah (and or her family) in 2 or 3 census giving occupations & addresses - I can probably ensure that I am 'following' the right person.
Thanks for your help Gill ps: Sarah Bennet is my great grandmother & I know nothing about her / her family yet.
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Ajwyorks
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19 Aug 2008 15:18 |
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How about this for Sarah in 1871??
Sarah Ann Bennett Grocock Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Keyworth Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Nottingham Sub registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 165 Household Members: Name Age John Grocock 31 b Ratcliffe insurance agent Mary Ann Grocock 32 b Bradmore charwoman Sarah Ann Bennett Grocock 13 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3511; Folio: 62; Page: 28; GSU roll: 839747.
marriage
Mary Ann Bennett/John Grocock Year of Registration: 1867 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Radford County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 211
1851
Mary Ann Bennett Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Bradmore, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Bradmore Town: Bradmore County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub registration district: Arnold ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Elijah Bennett 20 framework knitter Eliza Bennett 7 Elizabeth Bennett 36 George Bennett 13 winder Mary Ann Bennett 9 seamer Samuel Bennett 66 (image says 46) farm lab Willm Bennett 15 winder Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2128; Folio: 479; Page: 4; GSU roll: 87758.
all born Bradmore except Elizabeth b Quorndon, Leics
places of birth all same as 1861
cannot find Mary on 1861
Andy
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Gillian
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19 Aug 2008 15:48 |
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Hi Andy - Thank you so much for your help.
I have a question:
Sarah Bennet in 1871 is 13yrs old ( so she was born c1858) & her parents are Mary Bennet & John Grocock
Mary & John didnt get married until 1867.- some 9 yrs after Sarah was born???
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Gillian
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19 Aug 2008 15:53 |
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We know that Sarah (aged 2) was living with her grandparents ( Marys Parents) in the 1861 census and we know that Mary wasnt on the census with em - so, is it pos please to look for John Grocock in the 1861 census to see where he was? Maybe, Mary was with him - and if not where was she ............?
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Ajwyorks
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19 Aug 2008 17:40 |
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I think this is John in 1861
John Growcock Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Ratcliffe, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Heanor County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Basford Sub registration district: Ilkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age John Growcock 20 butcher's lad Hannah Hopkinson 19 servant Ann Turton 31 John Turton 37 butcher Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2435; Folio: 43; Page: 3; GSU roll: 542970.
I have tried everything I can think of but cannot find Mary.
I think it is quite likely that John is not Sarah's father - what has she put on her marriage cert?
Andy
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Gillian
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20 Aug 2008 09:52 |
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Hi Andy
I havent got the marriage cert yet, so am looking for more clues at the mo ........
Wonder where Mary was in 1861.???
Either she was with the babys father / fathers family ( if John is not Sarahs father) ..or, with other relatives, (but then why leave a 2yrs old with her parents)..... or she was in hospital - bit unlikely - or she was in prison???
Any ideas how I can eliminate prison / hospital??
Thanks again regards Gill
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