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Pretty sure this is John (Edward's father) in 1861 - living at home with mother.

BUT no sign of a marriage OR Margaret ..perhaps the marriage given above was wrong ????

1861 England Census
about John Lines
Name: John Lines
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England



Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Lines 65
John Lines 24

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to reply to my posting! It is so nice to know there is a knowledgeable and helpful community out there! I hit a brick wall pre-1901 census, but now have plenty of new ideas to work on! Thank you so much! Alexandra xxx

Looks as though it isn't Edward who was born in Ireland, but his father!

Possibly Edward in 1871:-

Name: Edward Lyons
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
Bridgett Lyons 1 month
Catharine Lyons 6
Edward Lyons 8
John Lyons 35 - born: Ireland
Margaret Lyons 35
Margaret Lyons 2
Mary Lyons 1 month
Thomas Lyons 10

Possible marriage:-
Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
Lines John Birmingham 6d 280
MILLWARD Margaret Birmingham 6d 280

Marriage:-
Marriages Sep 1874
Lines Margaret Birmingham 6d 285
Walton John Henry Birmingham 6d 285

Could this be Rose in 1871?:-
Name: Rose Pearson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Pearson 15
Amy Pearson 64 -Mother
Clara Pearson 4
Fanny Pearson 18
James Pearson 46 Lamp Maker - Widow -Birmingham
Mary Ann Pearson 7
Rose Pearson 7
Sidney Pearson 12

1881 census

gives his mom and dates names and dates of approx.birth - looks like his mom re-married someone called walton and had another child ??

Edward Lines
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 17 Clifford St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Ship & Carriage Lamp Maker

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Erdington
ED, institution, or vessel: 13

Household Members: Name Age
Edward Lines 16
Kate Lines 17
Margaret Lines 12
Thomas Lines 19
Henry Walton 52
Margaret Walton 41
Walter Walton 6

1891 census

Edward Lines
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 48

Household Members: Name Age
Clara Lines 2
Edward Lines 26
Rosannah Lines 25
Rosannah Lines 4

This is the only Rose that looks possible born in England ???

Do you think she could have been born in hertfordfshire ?

Rose Hannah Pearson
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Hatfield
County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 253

Possibly 1881:-

Name: Edward Lines
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 17 Clifford St

Occupation: Ship & Carriage Lamp Maker

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Erdington
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Lines 16
Kate Lines 17
Margaret Lines 12
Thomas Lines 19
Henry Walton 52
Margaret Walton 41
Walter Walton 6

This may be Edward's birth record

Edward Lines
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 143

This may be their marriage

John Edward Lines
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 62

Rose Hanna Pearson
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 62

For reference:-
1891
Name: Edward Lines
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Lines 2
Edward Lines 26
Rosannah Lines 25
Rosannah Lines 4

I assume you have this info ? 1901 census

Name: Edward Lines
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 53

Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Lines 8
Agnes Lines 2
Albert Lines 4
Clara Lines 12
Edward Lines 36
Florance Lines 6 months
Rose Hannah Lines 36
Rose Hannah Lines 14



as their eldest child is 14 I would search for a marriage for edward lines around 1887

1891 census has his birthplace as Birmingham

Name: Edward Lines
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England


Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Clara Lines 2
Edward Lines 26
Rosannah Lines 25
Rosannah Lines 4

Have you considered looking for him in 1881?

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For reference:-
1901
Name: Edward Lines
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
Ada Lines 8
Agnes Lines 2
Albert Lines 4
Clara Lines 12
Edward Lines 36
Florance Lines 6 months
Rose Hannah Lines 36 born: Birmingham
Rose Hannah Lines 14

Buy the marriage cert......it will name their fathers.

Hi! I am trying to trace the origins of my great-great grandfather, Edward Lines and his wife Rose Hannah ( formerly Pearson ).. I know Edward was a Tin Plate worker and lived at Long Acre, Aston Birmingham in 1901. He is listed as being forn Warks, Birmingham but family rumours say he could have been from Ireland. His wife is listed with many different spellings, including Rosae Annae aged 36 in 1901. They went on to have several children including my great-grandmother, Clara Lines ( later Ward ). I would love to know any details of them and their history. Please get in touch!! Many thanks and kind regards, Alexandra