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1881 census help needed

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Clive

Clive Report 3 Sep 2008 14:33

Hi
Just to confuse things is anyone related to Enos Walker b1864

Dea

Dea Report 17 Aug 2008 13:09

Just explored that one but found:

Emily Maggs
Christening: 13 JUL 1855 Paulton, Somerset, England


Parents:
Father: William Maggs Family
Mother: Selina
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

I032465

Probably not the one then?

Dea x

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 17 Aug 2008 13:03

I don't want to confuse things but there is a marriage for a Samuel Harris to Emily Mogg in June 1860 at Wincanton and there is a birth for a child (possibly Emily's daughter ....Emily Maggs in 1854 in Frome

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 17 Aug 2008 12:41

John and Sarah Walker are living next door to William and Emily in 1871

1861 England Census about William Walker
Name: William Walker
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Dudley
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View Image
Registration district: Dudley
Sub registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22-23
Household Members:
Name Age

Edward Walker 1
George Walker 4
James Walker 6
John Walker 37
John Walker 8
Sarah Walker 34
****William Walker 10

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 12:41

Id like to add to the puzzle that I found a mariage of a william h walker to a emily button in 1870 at st thomas dudley. could emily illegitimate daughter be emily button on her birth certificate which she would of shown at her marriage

Dea

Dea Report 17 Aug 2008 12:36

Thank you Seaham Lass - I had to go quite suddenly and didn't have time to post the 1871 and explain the connection!

You have come to the same conclusion as I had.

I will go and explore the other Walker's.

Dea x

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 12:36

so where could william walker be in 1861? there is too many coincidences for it all not to be connected
Pam

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 17 Aug 2008 12:35

Samuel Walker's mother is Emily.........

Emily's parents are Samuel and Emily Harris and therefore Samuel Walker's grandparents....is that any help ?

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 12:31

whos emily harris father not a walker??

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 12:29

soory for being ignorant but i cant understand the connection
Pam

doddsy1

doddsy1 Report 17 Aug 2008 12:21

It looks as though Emily, wife of William Walker could be the illegitimate daughter of Emily (Emma) Harris

1861 Oldbury, Staffs
Samuel Harris 28, born Stourbridge
Emma Harris 24, born Frome, Somerset
Emily Harris 5, lodger, born Frome, Somerset
(They have a family named Walker lodging with them)

1871
William Walker 20, born Dudley
Emily Walker 16, wife, born Frome
(They have a Walker family living next door to them)

A possible marriage.........
Samuel Harris married Emma Johnson in 1861 in West Bromwich

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 12:20

help I finally feel like this puzzle might have an end I just cant put it together
pam

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 12:16

whats the marriage connection between samuel harris,s daughter emily and william walker cause I cant see him in 1861
Pam

Mavis

Mavis Report 17 Aug 2008 11:27


Have you checked back to see if they had any daughters who may have married and even died.

Mavis

Dea

Dea Report 17 Aug 2008 11:27

Yes - I believe he is on 1881 twice (not unusual).

If you look at this on 1861 you will see that Samuel's daughter Emily is the one on 1881 with William Walker

Interestingly the 1861 also shows a Walker connection:

1861:
Name: Emily Harris
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Frome, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Oldbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Oldbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
William Allman 20
Edwd Brabbins 8
William Dawson 28
Ann Good 54
William Good 54
>>>> *** Emily Harris 5
>>>>Saml Harris 28
>>>>Emma Harris 24
Hannah Hunt 70
Ann Jones 37
Harry Jones 40
Louisa Ledoe 66
Rosanna Lyenn 1
Noah Lynum 22
Sarah Lynum 21
Ezekiel Skeldon 20
Margaret Tilston 8
Mary Ann Tilston 4
Rachel Tilston 30
Sarah Tilston 2
Thomas Tilston 32
>>>>Ann Walker 32
>>>>John Walker 40
John Williams 60




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2022; Folio: 75; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542904.


Sorry - have to go off for a while - I will check back later.

Dea x

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 11:00

also im not sure if william walker ishis brother, cousin or totally unrelated

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 10:59

he went on to marry sarah snape, shes my gg granny how inacurate could the grandson thing be and could he be listed twice in1881.I cant figure out his parents.

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 17 Aug 2008 10:55

This looks like Samuel in 1891.............it seems that the 'grandson' may have been inaccurate.......

Name: Samuel Walker
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Dudley, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Harris 53
Samuel Harris 62
Emma E Snape 1/12
Sarah Snape 18
Samuel Walker 19
William Walker 17 b. West Bromwich

Pamela

Pamela Report 17 Aug 2008 10:51

my problem is there are 2 samuel walkers listed in 1881 in west bromwich, 1 in wyntor lane and 1 in witton lane same age both born dudley. not sure if same samuel listed twice

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 17 Aug 2008 10:47

I assume he married.......his father will be named on the marriage cert........if Samuel knew his name.

Have you looked on freebmd for a possible birth for Samuel?

The assumption has to be that a Miss Harris married a Mr Walker