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I am driving myself crazy trying to find Emily. I have been told by a relative that her family was from Manchester and were Quakers. I was told her siblings were Ette, Nellie, Christina and a brother Charles. I was told Emily was the eldest.

I know that Emily met and had children with William Morton. I can not find a marriage for them.
She is showing on the 1891 Census as being born c1860 in Oldham.
I have got her daughters birth Certificate which shows her as Emily Alice Morton formerly Petch.

I can find no birth reference for Emily and no marriage reference.

HELP!!!

Many thanks for any info.

Sara

here she is on the 1881 in domestic service

Name: Emily Alice Petch
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wallsend
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: Willington House
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: General Servant (Dom)

Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub registration district: Wallsend
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Blanche Austin 14
Charlotte Austin 3
Chas.Dudley Austin 49
Constance Austin 38
Edith Maude Austin 5
Edward Lewis Austin
Florence Austin 20
Frances Constance Austin 13
Gilbert Freire Austin 2
Harold Brougham Austin 18
Lawrence Austin 6
Maurice Lindsay Austin 8
Phillip Dudley Austin 11
Rosamond Austin 9
Margaret Crooks 17
Emily Alice Petch 21
Elizebeth Rutherford 21


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5072; Folio: 28; Page: 6; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342225.

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When was her first child born?

Selena

1891 for ref for the children who were born in Dunston
Emily A Morton
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Whickham
Ecclesiastical parish: Dunston
Town: Dunston
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Gateshead
Sub registration district: Whickham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily A Morton 30
James H Morton 8
Nellie Morton 5
William Morton 43
William Hy Morton 7

Registration was not compulsory until 1875 so there may not be a birth registration.

Kath. x

Hi Her first Child James was born 1883, I am thinking either she was married before or her mum remarried after her father died.

Could this be a sister?

Births Dec 1869
PETCH Christina Gusibro 9d 451

CHRISTIANA PETCH
Christening: 30 NOV 1869 Guisborough, Yorkshire, England

Father: GEORGE FRANCIS PETCH
Mother: ELLEN

I think this is the marriage

Dec qtr 1881
William Morton Tynemouth 10b 368

Emma Alice Petch Tynmouth 10b 368

So she is listed as Emma instead of Emily. Its a typed list so may be a typing error

She was living in reg district Tynemouth on the 1881!!

Births Dec 1856
Petch Emily Alicia Clerkenwell 1b 305

copied from FreeBMD.
However...

The page number is not within the range expected for the district. Note that there a number of possible reasons for this, including an error in the district, the page, the volume, the date or the type of entry

Just a thought, Nellie could be short for Ellen

1881

Wouldn't swear its them but here is a Christina, with an Ellenor (Nellie) and a Charles Petch. Could Ester be Ettie?

George PETCH Head M Male 40 Lestigham, York, England Cabinet Mr
Ellen PETCH Wife M Female 43 Manchester, Lancashire, England
George W. PETCH Son Male 16 Manchester, Lancashire, England In W House
Ellenor A. PETCH Daur Female 13 Oldham Schoolar
Christiana PETCH Daur Female 11 Guisbor, York, England Schoolar
Esther PETCH Daur Female 9 Guisbor, York, England Schoolar
Charles H. PETCH Son Male 3 Manchester, Lancashire, England Schoolar
Ann L. PETCH Daur Female 5 m Manchester, Lancashire, England


Dwelling 11 Mahogany St
Census Place Chorlton On Medlock, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341936
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3921 / 10
Page Number 16

Hi Selena,

I think you could be right. The people seem to fit. I am so greatful as I was pulling my hair out with it. Still not found her birth though!!!

Sara

1871. What do you think?


1871 England Census
about Christiana Petch
Name: Christiana Petch
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Gisborough, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Guisborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Cleveland
Town: Guisborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Guisborough
Sub registration district: Kirkleatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Johnson 8
Emily Johnson 11 daughter, b Manchester
Christiana Petch 1
Eleanor Petch 3
Ellen Petch 29
Francis Petch 27
George Petch 6

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Marriage

Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
Gradwell Matthew Manchester 8d 433 Scan available - click to view
Johnson Ellen Manchester 8d 433 Scan available - click to view
Lockett Jane Manchester 8d 433 Scan available - click to view
Petch George Francis Manchester 8d 433 Scan available - click to view



Liz

Ooer! Christiana's father is down as George Francis. Better look for a Johnson then!

Selena

Sara did you see i found her marriage tho!!!!!

GEORGE FRANCES PETCH:
Spouse: ELLEN JOHNSON
Marriage: 19 SEP 1864 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England

EMILY ALICE JOHNSON
Christening: 01 JAN 1860 Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England


Mother: ELLEN JOHNSON

it all looks good

Hi Shirley I did you are all great

Duplicate thread on trying to find!!! Sorry folks only just came across it.