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25 Jul 2008 06:22 |
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George Bamford born 1835 Liverpool, Lancashire
He joined the 95th Regiment of Foot in 1855 at Liverpool and served in the mutiny in India from 1857 to 1867.
His regiment then returned to England and I was hoping some one might have a look in the 1871 census and see if he is there.
In the past his surname has been mistranscribed as Bumford.
I have him in the 1841 census and the 1851 census living with his brothers, I think by 1851, his parents Thomas & Ellen had died.
Thank you Jan (in Australia)
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Peter
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25 Jul 2008 07:55 |
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May i ask if you have the brothers names ? and did he marry
I have a few Bamfords listed but cant match then to yours at present .
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25 Jul 2008 11:11 |
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Hi Peter
Sorry it has taken me a while to reply...computer problems
1841 census (mistranscribed as Bumford) Ellen Bumford 1796 Lancashire Mary 1823 Amos 1821 Lancashire John 1828 " William 1830 " George 1835 " living at Aldersey St Liverpool
1851 Ellen 6 months Elizabeth Bamford 23 wife John Bamford 22 Head George 15 brother William Bamford 20 brother Isabella Thomas 17 sister-in-law I don't know their address but is in Lancashire
I hope this might help with trying to find George Bamford Thank you
Jan
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26 Jul 2008 03:43 |
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Further to the history behind GEORGE BAMFORD
George was discharched from the army 19th June, 1866 and his trade was tobaconist
and would be living at 113 Scotland Rd, Liverpool
If anyone might be able to find him for me in the 1871 census, it would be great Thank you Jan
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Jeanette
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26 Jul 2008 09:30 |
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Hi Jan
I have found 113 Scotland Road on census but it is uninhabited
RG 10 3755 piece 143 page 3
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Jan
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26 Jul 2008 11:56 |
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Jeanette
Thank you for looking. Maybe,...George ended up going to Australia as promised in his letters to his brother? Now I need to find if he did.! Is there any way I can find if he went to Oz? at that time? Jan
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Jeanette
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26 Jul 2008 12:19 |
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Hi Jan
I only have access to FMP and the passenger lists start from 1890.
I don't know where else the earlier ones can be found,perhaps someone else will know
Jeanette
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Jan
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27 Jul 2008 02:21 |
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Hi Jeanette
I was wondering if you could have a look at 113 Scotland Rd, Liverpool in the 1861 census and see who was living there at that time, please Thank you Jan
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27 Jul 2008 06:36 |
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Jan said 113 Scotland Rd was uninhabited in 1871. The ref no she gave took me to the even side of the road. We will have to see if Jan can work out the odd side
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Jeanette
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27 Jul 2008 10:14 |
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Hi Jan
first of all, I would like to apologise for giving you the wrong info yesterday. I stupidly thought when I found 112-118 as uninhabited that 113 was included. I had been on computer for a while ;-)
I have now found the correct address. It seems to cover 113,115 & 117.The entry has the following people, but still no George.
28 GWYNE, Ann Servant F 66 1805 Lancashire VIEW
28 EVANS, Hannah Servant F 16 1855 Caernarvonshire VIEW
28 FENTON, Fredk Servant M 27 1844 Yorkshire VIEW
28 GALLIE, Flora Servant F 20 1851 Scotland VIEW
28 FESTAM, Jas* Servant M 23 1848 Wales VIEW
28 WILLIAMS, Wm Servant M 19 1852 Flintshire VIEW
28 OWENS, Ebenezer Servant M 19 1852 Wales VIEW
28 SMITH, Joseph Servant M 18 1853 Cheshire VIEW
28 HUGHES, Philip Servant M 18 1853 Suffolk VIEW
28 JONES, Thomas Servant M 18 1853 Caernarvonshire VIEW
28 HANCOCK, Henry Servant M 23 1848 United States VIEW
RG number:RG10 Piece:3757 Folio:153 Page:6 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: St Martin Enumeration District: 19 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: Scotland Road, Liverpool County: Lancashire
Margaret,
I don't know a quick way of finding the info and had to trawl through the entries for Scotland Road on FMP, perhaps you can advise me on the easy way?
Jeanette
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Jeanette
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27 Jul 2008 10:28 |
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This one was easy to find as entries included the numbers!!
Sched Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Disability Where Born Original census image 34 TOBACCONIST SHOP
RG number:RG 09 Piece:2652 Folio:6 Page:6 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: 1 St Martin Enumeration District: 19 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Albans Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: 113, Scotland Road, Liverpool County: Lancashire
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27 Jul 2008 11:51 |
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Hi Jeanette,
Thank you so much for clarifying an easy mistake.
So am I to asume from your last entry, that the above information is from the 1861 census? I note you have 34 TOBACCONIST SHOP
I do know that George's occupation before he joined the army, was Tobacconist as was his father ,Thomas. So can you tell me any names from the 1861 census from 113 Scotland Rd Liverpool? thank you Jan
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Jeanette
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27 Jul 2008 12:23 |
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Hi Jan
yes, it is from 1861, there are no names for 113.
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28 Jul 2008 01:41 |
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Jeanette
Thank you for the information on the 1861 census. That would be right...lol...just as I was getting closer another thing to throw me off the right track Thanks for all you help Jan
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28 Jul 2008 07:45 |
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And this isn't him?
Deaths Dec 1866 BAMFORD George 31 Liverpool 8b 32
You KNOW he was at Scotland Rd or it's family legend?
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28 Jul 2008 11:10 |
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Hi Ozibird
I dont know if this is him..guess it is another cert. I will have to buy? In his discharge papers from the army, his place of address, that he was going to, was 113 Scotland Rd, Liverpool... I just hope it isn't his death...he was in the Indian mutiny and went through so much..typical me...I was hoping for a happy ending.... Jan
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Jeanette
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28 Jul 2008 11:16 |
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Hi Jan
this may be brother John in 1861
BAMFORD, John Head Married M 32 1829 Tobacco Spinner Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 32 1829 Wife Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Mary E Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, John F Son M 6 1855 Scholar Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, William A Son M 3 1858 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW BAMFORD, Elizabeth Daughter F 3 1858 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW TIZZARD, Ann Visitor Widow F 55 1806 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
- RG number:RG09 Piece:2692 Folio:43 Page:25 Registration District: Liverpool Sub District: 7 Islington EnumerationDistrict: 17 Ecclesiastical Parish: Christchurch Civil Parish: Liverpool Municipal Borough: Liverpool Address: 40, Clayton Street, Liverpool County: Lancashire
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Jan
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28 Jul 2008 11:29 |
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Jeanette Thank you so much for the 1861 census information. I will need to look into this a little further.
Just hate to think that George went through so much in India and wanted so much to go to his brother James in Oz. I find it amazing that I can feel so much for someone I hadn't even met, who is related and didn't even know about but know of their history, through an amazing relative who thought to keep these letters from almost 150 years ago... So sad...I think I will need to buy this cert for the death of George Bamford, so I can finish this part of his life.... Jan
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28 Jul 2008 11:37 |
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Jeanette Another big ask... Can you find the brother John & wife Elizabeth in the 1871 census and maybe 1881 census with their family? Jan
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28 Jul 2008 12:08 |
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Hi Jan
can't find the family together in 1871,will keep looking
this may be John's death
Deaths Mar 1865 (>99%)
BAMFORD John Liverpool 8b 170
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