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can any 1 help

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pinkarrow

pinkarrow Report 11 Jul 2008 18:48

hi im looking for a martha mclean born 1878 died 1968 in glasgow married thomas taylor either 1897 or 1899 dnt have any info on thomas taylor and i cant find a martha mclean i can find a margaret mclean married to thomas taylor i have been told that they cant be the same person as i thought maybe martha was short for margaret i do no they had a child jane waldie cairns mclean taylor born 1901 died 1966 married james muir in 28th dec 1923, jane and james were my great grand parents. please if any1 can help that wld be great x they are all from glasgow around lanark area

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 18:57

Colette

goto www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

you will be able to find all you need there.... if you try and find the childrens births, you can download their cert immediately and on it will be the date of the parents marriage (this will cut the search down for you) and will also list the parents full names (inc the mother)

Good Luck

Tracey

pinkarrow

pinkarrow Report 11 Jul 2008 19:00

hi i have been there and cnt find anything and on jane's marraige cert it has her name as martha mclean but i just cant find anything on a martha mclean thanx

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:01

it should list the date of her parents marriage on her cert...

I'll go and take a look...

Tracey

pinkarrow

pinkarrow Report 11 Jul 2008 19:04

i dnt think i have full cert bit it has there names there parents names and the witnesses that were there when they married my mum said martha cnt be short for margaret but how can i find info on margaret and not martha
thanx colette

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:09

I cannot find Jane's birth??

Where was Jane born?

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:10

right Jane was born in 1900.... not 1901...

looking at the cert now...

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:11

Colette

Her parents marriage is clearly stated on her birth cert...!!!!

30 April 1897..... how can you miss that??

Tracey

pinkarrow

pinkarrow Report 11 Jul 2008 19:13

she was born around 1901 she was married 1923 and she was 22 years old when she was married he name is jane waldie cairns mclean taylor
thanx for your help i wld like 2 give the tree 2 my gran for her birthday

pinkarrow

pinkarrow Report 11 Jul 2008 19:14

i have her parents marraige in 1897 but cant find any info on there parents

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:18

Then Colette please go back and rewrite your thread...

You have clearly stated you do not know the date of the wedding..."married thomas taylor either 1897 or 1899"

and you state you cannot find the marriage...."i cant find a martha mclean i can find a margaret mclean married to thomas taylor "

You have the birth cert and have the year wrong...."child jane waldie cairns mclean taylor born 1901"

The marriage you have found is it for the 30th April 1897??

What is largely obvious is that they were married in 1897 and Jane was born in 1900, so they will all appear on the Scottish census of 1901, have you found them there?

Tracey

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:23

Simple....

1901 Scotland Census
about Jane W C Mcl Taylor
Name: Jane W C Mcl Taylor
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: West Calder, Midlothian
Registration Number: 701
Registration district: West Calder
Civil Parish: West Calder
County: Midlothian
Address: 56 Cobbinshaw Row
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 147
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1901_406
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes M Taylor 2
Jane W C Mcl Taylor 1
Margaret M E Taylor 4
Martha Taylor 23
Thomas Taylor 24


Name: Martha Taylor
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: West Calder, Midlothian


Name: Agnes M Taylor
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: West Calder, Midlothian


Name: Margaret M E Taylor
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: West Calder, Midlothian


Name: Thomas Taylor
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: West Calder, Midlothian

pinkarrow

pinkarrow Report 11 Jul 2008 19:25

hi i am sorry if i have confused you or any1 else this is what i have i have a martha mclean b 1878 d 1968 married thomas taylor in 1897 and had jane waldie cairns mclean taylor b around 1901 died around 1966 she married james muir in 1923,
but i can only find info on margaret mclean married thomas taylor in 1899 but i thought margaret and martha were the same person so was not sure which was the correct date

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:25

....and Martha with her parents William & Margaret

1891 Scotland Census
about Martha McLean
Name: Martha McLean
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Duar
Gender: Female
Where born: West Calder, Edinburgh Shire
Registration Number: 701
Registration district: West Calder
Civil Parish: West Calder
County: Midlothian
Address: 15 Tweed St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 44
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1891_370
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander McLean 11
Jane McLean 18
Margaret McLean 38
Margaret McLean Under 1 Mo
Martha McLean 13
Robert McLean 8
William McLean 44
William McLean 6
Robert Thomson 52 << Lodger


Mother....

Name: Margaret McLean
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : William
Gender: Female
Where born: Camden, Linlithgow Shire


Father...

Name: William McLean
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Slamman, Stirlingshire -

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:27

you have the correct marriage date on Jane's birth cert....

I have now provided you with Martha's proper name (Martha) and her parents names...

Do you have access to the scottish census's?

This is Martha's marriage details....

1897 TAYLOR THOMAS MCLEAN MARTHA WEST CALDER /WEST LOTHIAN 701/00 0021

Tracey

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:31

Martha in 1881....

1881 Scotland Census
about Martha McLean
Name: Martha McLean
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: West Calder, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 701
Registration district: West Calder
Civil Parish: West Calder
County: Midlothian
Address: 18, Dee Street
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 137
Line: 24
Roll: cssct1881_302
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander McLean 1
Helen McLean 5
Jane McLean 8
Margaret McLean 28
Martha McLean 3
William McLean 32

pinkarrow

pinkarrow Report 11 Jul 2008 19:32

thanx for your help i have martha and thomas marraige cert which i didnt no i had and just found i just cant make out there parents names as it is not very clear

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:35

Janes Father Thomas Taylor...

1891 Scotland Census
about Thomas Taylor
Name: Thomas Taylor
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Wm
Mother's Name: Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: West Calder, Edin
Registration Number: 701
Registration district: West Calder
Civil Parish: West Calder
County: Midlothian
Address: 94 Gav
Occupation: Shaleminer
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 76
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1891_370
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Taylor 46
Agnes Taylor 10
Robert Taylor 17
Thomas Taylor 15
William Taylor 8
Wm Taylor 47

His Mother....

Name: Agnes Taylor
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Wm
Gender: Female
Where born: (City), Edinburgh


His Father....

Name: Wm Taylor
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Methven, Perth


Tracey

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 11 Jul 2008 19:36

well check the names against the parents name i have given you from the census returns and then go from there....

If you need more assistance give me a shout...you pretty much have everything you need for the time being now...

Tracey

pinkarrow

pinkarrow Report 11 Jul 2008 19:46

thank you soo much for your help i really appreciate it x