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SylviaInCanada
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3 Jul 2008 22:03 |
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as Andy found, this is the only Edward/win marriage in Glucestershire, 1845 to 1871
Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%) Coupland Eliza Maria Cheltenham 6a 721 Morris Sarah Cheltenham 6a 721 Piff Edward Cheltenham 6a 721 Winters Lewis Cheltenham 6a 721
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3 Jul 2008 21:20 |
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Yep that's the marriage
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3 Jul 2008 21:16 |
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Could well be Sylvia as according to the '81 census William is a stonemason
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3 Jul 2008 21:03 |
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Is this William in 1871??
Name: William Piff Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Cheltenham Sub registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Household schedule number: 44 Household Members: Name Age Charles Morris 47 Sarah Morris 38 William Piff 20 Stone Mason
Address:- 41 Elm Street
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3 Jul 2008 21:00 |
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Got a few minutes to spare
Is this William's marriage??
Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%) PIFF William Bedford 3b 573 Sandall Mary Bedford 3b 573 Sandell Mary Bedford 3b 573
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3 Jul 2008 20:39 |
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Ok thankyou Sylvia
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3 Jul 2008 20:38 |
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sorry, have to go.
Will look back later today to see if anyone else has been able to find anyhting
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3 Jul 2008 20:37 |
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Debbie
These are the only ones showing on freebmd as born between 1848 and 1865 .......... of coruse he might not have been registered!!!!
Births Mar 1852 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piff William Thomas Worcester 6c 283
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piff William H Tewkesbury 6a 358 Piff William Henry Tewkesbury 6a 358
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1863 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PIFF William George Droitwich 6c 394
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3 Jul 2008 20:35 |
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Looked for William Piff's birth, 1848 to 1853 .......... nothing for Gloucestershire, but there was this one
Births Mar 1852 (>99%) Piff William Thomas Worcester 6c 283
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3 Jul 2008 20:34 |
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Grr I have a match to my tree with William Piff married to Mary (correct match) but that tree is saying William is born 1860 the same as I have , now a second match saying 1850 Gloustershire - how much of a differance does this make William's wife is Mary , have her correct
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3 Jul 2008 20:27 |
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Could this be his father????
1851 Census
Name: William Siff Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Swindon, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Cheltenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Cheltenham Sub registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 1p Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 153 Household Members: Name Age Ann Field 50 Richard Field 60 William Siff 55 b. Gloster, Swindon, Widower, Agriculture Labourer
Address:- 8 Townsend Street
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3 Jul 2008 20:26 |
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Thankyou , that was what I was thinking Sylvia
Thankyou Andy
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3 Jul 2008 20:22 |
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so where is he in 1851????
I'm wondering whether Sarah was his second wife ....... look at the ages of the children on the 1861. .
I have looked for William born ca 1850 ...... but none of them show up on the 1851.
There is seemingly another Edwin Piff, but he was born in Epsom Surrey.
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3 Jul 2008 20:17 |
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Poss death
Deaths Sep 1898 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piff Edwin 67 Cheltenham 6a 240
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3 Jul 2008 20:10 |
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1871. Back to Edwin??
1871 England Census about Edwin Riff Name: Edwin Riff Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: St Peter Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cheltenham Sub registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age Charles Riff 8 Edwin Riff 41 Elizabeth Riff 6 Francis Riff 1 George Riff 3 Hannah Riff 10 Henry Riff 19 Samuel Riff 15 Sarah Riff 39 Sarah Riff 12
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3 Jul 2008 20:08 |
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1881 Census
Name: Edwin Piff Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: 11 Waterloo Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Bricklayers Labr Registration district: Cheltenham Sub registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Edwin Piff 50 Elizabeth Piff 16 b.ca 1865, Cheltenham Ellen Piff 8 b.ca 1873, Cheltenham Frank Piff 11 b.ca 1870, Cheltenham Hannah Piff 19 b.ca 1862, Cheltenham, Laundress Samuel Piff 25 b.ca 1856, Cheltenham, General Lanourer Sarah Piff 49 b.ca 1832, Cheltenham
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3 Jul 2008 20:03 |
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1861 Census
Name: Edward Piff Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Cheltenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Cheltenham Sub registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 74 Household Members: Name Age Edward Piff 31 Labourer Hannah Piff 10 Mo b.ca 1860, Cheltenham Henry Piff 9 b.ca 1852, Cheltenham Samuel Piff 6 b.ca 1855, Cheltenham Sarah Piff 29 b.ca 1832, Cheltenham Sarah Piff 3 b.ca 1858, Cheltenham William Piff 11 b.ca 1850, Cheltenham, Labourer
Address:- 1 Waterloo Street, Cheltenham
oo'er Andrew found their marriage in 1864???
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3 Jul 2008 20:02 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Sarah Cheltenham 6a 721 Piff Edward Cheltenham 6a 721
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3 Jul 2008 19:58 |
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This could be him in 1841
1841 Census
Name: Edwin Piff Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Cheltenham Hundred: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Cheltenham Sub registration district: Cheltenham Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Amelia Birt 4 Eliza Birt 6 Mo Hannah Birt 31 Edwin Piff 11 Henry Piff 16 b.ca 1825, Gloucestershire Joseph Piff 13 b.ca 1825, Gloucestershire William Piff 50 b.ca 1791, Gloucestershire, Labourer
Address:- Malvern Place or Street, Cheltenham
The Birts are another family living in the same house but a separate household
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3 Jul 2008 19:32 |
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For: Edward Piff born abr 1830 Cheltemham , Gloustershire wife possibly Sarah
Thankyou Deb x
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