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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 22:03

as Andy found, this is the only Edward/win marriage in Glucestershire, 1845 to 1871


Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)

Coupland Eliza Maria Cheltenham 6a 721
Morris Sarah Cheltenham 6a 721
Piff Edward Cheltenham 6a 721
Winters Lewis Cheltenham 6a 721



sylvia

Debbie

Debbie Report 3 Jul 2008 21:20

Yep that's the marriage

Debbie

Debbie Report 3 Jul 2008 21:16

Could well be Sylvia as according to the '81 census William is a stonemason

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 21:03

Is this William in 1871??

Name: William Piff
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Morris 47
Sarah Morris 38
William Piff 20 Stone Mason

Address:- 41 Elm Street


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 21:00

Got a few minutes to spare


Is this William's marriage??


Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)

PIFF William Bedford 3b 573
Sandall Mary Bedford 3b 573
Sandell Mary Bedford 3b 573



sylvia

Debbie

Debbie Report 3 Jul 2008 20:39

Ok thankyou Sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 20:38

sorry, have to go.

Will look back later today to see if anyone else has been able to find anyhting



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 20:37

Debbie


These are the only ones showing on freebmd as born between 1848 and 1865 .......... of coruse he might not have been registered!!!!



Births Mar 1852 (>99%)
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Piff William Thomas Worcester 6c 283

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Births Sep 1858 (>99%)
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Piff William H Tewkesbury 6a 358
Piff William Henry Tewkesbury 6a 358

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Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
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PIFF William George Droitwich 6c 394




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 20:35

Looked for William Piff's birth, 1848 to 1853 .......... nothing for Gloucestershire, but there was this one


Births Mar 1852 (>99%)

Piff William Thomas Worcester 6c 283


sylvia

Debbie

Debbie Report 3 Jul 2008 20:34

Grr
I have a match to my tree with William Piff married to Mary (correct match) but that tree is saying William is born 1860 the same as I have , now a second match saying 1850 Gloustershire - how much of a differance does this make William's wife is Mary , have her correct

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 20:27

Could this be his father????

1851 Census

Name: William Siff
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Swindon, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1p
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Field 50
Richard Field 60
William Siff 55 b. Gloster, Swindon, Widower, Agriculture Labourer

Address:- 8 Townsend Street



sylvia

Debbie

Debbie Report 3 Jul 2008 20:26

Thankyou , that was what I was thinking Sylvia

Thankyou Andy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 20:22

so where is he in 1851????


I'm wondering whether Sarah was his second wife ....... look at the ages of the children on the 1861.
.

I have looked for William born ca 1850 ...... but none of them show up on the 1851.

There is seemingly another Edwin Piff, but he was born in Epsom Surrey.


sylvia

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Jul 2008 20:17

Poss death

Deaths Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Piff Edwin 67 Cheltenham 6a 240


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Jul 2008 20:10

1871. Back to Edwin??

1871 England Census
about Edwin Riff
Name: Edwin Riff
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Riff 8
Edwin Riff 41
Elizabeth Riff 6
Francis Riff 1
George Riff 3
Hannah Riff 10
Henry Riff 19
Samuel Riff 15
Sarah Riff 39
Sarah Riff 12


Andy




SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 20:08

1881 Census

Name: Edwin Piff
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Waterloo
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Bricklayers Labr

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Piff 50
Elizabeth Piff 16 b.ca 1865, Cheltenham
Ellen Piff 8 b.ca 1873, Cheltenham
Frank Piff 11 b.ca 1870, Cheltenham
Hannah Piff 19 b.ca 1862, Cheltenham, Laundress
Samuel Piff 25 b.ca 1856, Cheltenham, General Lanourer
Sarah Piff 49 b.ca 1832, Cheltenham



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 20:03

1861 Census

Name: Edward Piff
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 74
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Piff 31 Labourer
Hannah Piff 10 Mo b.ca 1860, Cheltenham
Henry Piff 9 b.ca 1852, Cheltenham
Samuel Piff 6 b.ca 1855, Cheltenham
Sarah Piff 29 b.ca 1832, Cheltenham
Sarah Piff 3 b.ca 1858, Cheltenham
William Piff 11 b.ca 1850, Cheltenham, Labourer

Address:- 1 Waterloo Street, Cheltenham



oo'er Andrew found their marriage in 1864???



sylvia

Andrew

Andrew Report 3 Jul 2008 20:02

Marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
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Morris Sarah Cheltenham 6a 721
Piff Edward Cheltenham 6a 721

Andy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Jul 2008 19:58

This could be him in 1841

1841 Census

Name: Edwin Piff
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Cheltenham
Hundred: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub registration district: Cheltenham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Birt 4
Eliza Birt 6 Mo
Hannah Birt 31
Edwin Piff 11
Henry Piff 16 b.ca 1825, Gloucestershire
Joseph Piff 13 b.ca 1825, Gloucestershire
William Piff 50 b.ca 1791, Gloucestershire, Labourer

Address:- Malvern Place or Street, Cheltenham


The Birts are another family living in the same house but a separate household



sylvia

Debbie

Debbie Report 3 Jul 2008 19:32

For:
Edward Piff born abr 1830 Cheltemham , Gloustershire
wife possibly Sarah

Thankyou
Deb x