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Born at Sea?

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 14 Jun 2008 23:05

In 1881 he says born 1853, Lambeth, Surrey. He has father-in-law John Grocutt living with them.

Caroline

Caroline Report 14 Jun 2008 22:47

Yes, I noticed that. Presume this is from the 1891 census? I couldn't see the name Grossett - Sarah's father lived with them, and he is down as John Growcut, father in law. Maybe the spelling was incorrect!

Kind regards,
Caroline

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Jun 2008 22:45

A bit worried about that 1891 entry as someone had added a name correction to Sarah to read Grossett.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Jun 2008 22:43

1891 just for ref

Name: James Williams
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Melton Mowbray
Ecclesiastical parish: Melton Mowbray
Town: Melton Mowbray
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Melton Mowbray
Sub registration district: Melton Mowbray
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Grossett 68
Charles Williams 9
Eliza J Williams 14
Harry Williams 1
James Williams 38
James Williams 7
John Williams 10
Lucy Williams 11
Mary Williams 13
Sarah A Williams 38
Tom Williams 4

Caroline

Caroline Report 14 Jun 2008 22:43

Because I looked for his wedding entry, as unsure of her name. My father confirmed her name as Grocock. I need to order his marriage certificate and have the entry number etc., to do so.

Kind regards,

Caroline

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Jun 2008 22:41

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Fletcher Henry Melton M 7a 447
Grocock Sarah Ann Melton M. 7a 447
HUTTON Sarah Ann Melton M. 7a 447
WILLIAMS James Melton M 7a 447



How do you know which Sarah he married if you do not have the cert.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Jun 2008 22:39

Had pm from Caroline

No, I don't have the occupation/name of his father. All I know is that he married on 6th September 1876, in Melton Mowbray - to Sarah Grocock. From the 1901 and 1891 he puts his place of birth as Lambeth, Surrey. But as there are 3 entries from the 1861 census, not sure if he's the one born at sea.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Jun 2008 22:23

Caroline,

Do you have James on a later census or have his marriage cert for the name & occupation for his father?

Maureen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Jun 2008 22:17

Are you looking at this one

1861
Name: James Williams
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Clara
Gender: Male
Where born: At Sea

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Matthew
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 165
Household Members: Name Age
Louisa Burt 20
Susan Nichol 32
Clara Williams 26
Ellis M Williams 5
James Williams 7
Madelaine F Williams 4
William Williams 33



If not can you post the details

Caroline

Caroline Report 14 Jun 2008 22:10

I'm trying to trace my Great Grandfather, James Williams born 1853. From the 1861 census, there are 2 entries. One says born at Birmingham (don't think this is him), and the other says Born At Sea. However, when downoaded census it states 'Williams ommitted'. Can anyone help me?

Kidn regards,
Caroline