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I would just like to say thank you to everyone who has tried to help me by taking the time to search records for me. Andrea.

Rose, Thank you very much for the details on the Langs it does look like the right family. I hope you don't mind me asking but is there any info on John Samuels who was married to Catherine Lang. Thanks again. Andrea.

Possibly Catherine in 1901:

1901 England Census
about Catherine Lang
Name: Catherine Lang
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bootle Cum Linacre
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 326
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Lang 39
Catherine Lang 15
James Lang 43
Joseph G Lang 17
Lily Lang 3
Maggie Lang 9
Maud Lang 11
Pollie Lang 7
Thomas Lang 2


Rose

Here's the marriage:

Marriages Dec 1940
Conning Eileen Liverpool N. 8b 1417
Samuels John J Liverpool N. 8b 1417

Rose

Some siblings:

Births Jun 1912
Samuels Catherine Lang W.Derby 8b 850

Births Sep 1914
Samuels Arthur Lang W.Derby 8b 914

Rose

Parent's marriage:

Marriages Jun 1903
Lang Catherine W. Derby 8b 925
Samuels John W. Derby 8b 925

Rose

This could be his birth:

Births Mar 1922
Samuels John J Lang W.Derby 8b 920

Rose

Hi Andrea
Here is the record of his death :from findmypast records for RAF war casualties

John J Samuels Sgt 1523568 207 Squadron 1945 Vol 13 Page 17.

Mary

Andrea, the address you need to get the service records is Disclosures Section, APC Glasgow, Kentigern House, 65 Brown Street, Glasgow, G2 8EX.
It does cost £30.00 and your aunt will need to sign as his next of kin. It can take a while as they have been very busy due to all of us trying to trace our ancestors.
There is a website or you can go to the SPVA, that stands for the Service Personnel and Veterans Agency site. That will give you a phone number you can use to contact them.
If you are interested in the medals he won SPVA also run the medals office.
Angela

I can see a John Samuels W Derby 1915,cant see an Eileen Conning.
W Derby would be reg district for Walton.
I dont know if youve tried freebmd,thats where I found that.
Kay
PS There are a lot of Connings in W Derby.Has your aunt got marriage cert?

Thanks Sam

I'll pass the info on to my aunt, she'll be very grateful of your help and thank you very much for taking the time to look for us. Andrea.

You could send off for his service records. Your aunty would have to sign the form (as his next of kin) and they cost £30 but are well worth it, I have my grandads.

That is the one with the least info unfortunately...

Name: SAMUELS, JOHN JOSEPH
Initials: J J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Sergeant (W. Op.)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Unit Text: 207 Sqdn.
Date of Death: 03/03/1945
Service No: 1523568
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 12. B. 4.
Cemetery: REICHSWALD FOREST WAR CEMETERY

Hi Kay

My granmother was born in walton, liverpool and i think she was married liverpool area maybe the walton area. Thanks. Andrea.

Hi Sam

It is the one who died in 1945 and was a sargeant in the RAF can you get any other details about him. Thanks alot. Andrea.

There are only 3 John Samuels that died in WWII and none in 1940.

One died in 1944 age 21, he was in the Royal Tank Regiment and came from London

One died in 1945 and was a Sargeant in the RAF

One was Australian.

Do any of these look likely?

Sam x

Any idea of where your grandmother was born?
Or where they got married?

Hi There, I am looking for details of a birth and marriage of my granmothers first husband who died in the 2nd world war 1940. My granmother was eileen conning born 1922 and john samuels born around 1920s and he possibly came from walton area of liverpool. I would be very grateful as my aunty would like to know more about her father. Thank you. Andrea.