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Sylvia
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12 May 2008 23:35 |
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hello jenna and eric i'v decided, i'm going to go for broke on this, and send for elizabeth woods, and john taylor houghtons marriage certififcate, i'll get a lot of info there, then next month i think i'll send for johns death cert, my intrest in ancestry in not just in how far back i can go, but in there lives and how they lived and died, hense i have a lot of certififcates, thank you for your help best regards sylvia
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JenW
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11 May 2008 21:29 |
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death record
Name: John Taylor Houghton Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 34 District: Prescot County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 595 (click to see others on page)
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Sylvia
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11 May 2008 20:59 |
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hi jenna john died when he was 34, so the info you scrapped, having him at aged 40, is deffanately not them, but the 51 and 61 census, look promising from syl
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11 May 2008 20:15 |
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James and sarah in 1881 with son and 2 grandsons
Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James HOUGHTON Head M Male 62 Ormskirk, Lancashire, England Watch Maker Sarah HOUGHTON Wife M Female 59 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Frederick W. HOUGHTON Son U Male 18 St Helens, Lancashire, England Solicitors Apprentice (Law Student) Wilfred T. HOUGHTON G Son Male 9 St Helens, Lancashire, England Scholar Thomas A. MARTIN G Son Male 3 St Helens, Lancashire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 87 Croppers Hill Census Place Eccleston In Prescot, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341894 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3736 / 114 Page Number 7
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JenW
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11 May 2008 20:13 |
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John Taylor Houghton's parents marriage
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1840 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HOUGHTON James TAYLOR Sarah Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne Liverpool 2053LP/5/456
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JAMES HOUGHTON Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: SARAH TAYLOR Family Marriage: 05 OCT 1840 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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11 May 2008 19:59 |
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John on the 1851 census
1851 England Census about John Taylor Houghton Name: John Taylor Houghton Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Windle Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Salisbury Arms, Raven Street
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 288 Household Members: Name Age Ann Cottrell 20 [servant] Emma Houghton 3 [born St Helens] George Houghton 4 [Scholar] [born St Helens] James Houghton 31 [Watchmaker and Beer seller] [born Ormskirk] Jane Houghton 7 Mo [born St Helens] John Taylor Houghton 6 [Scholar] [born Southport] Sarah Houghton 28 [born Liverpool] Esther Johnson 14 [Servant]
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JenW
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11 May 2008 19:40 |
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Can't find a marriage for st helens, but found 2 possibilities for liverpool
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1840 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference WOODS William KELEYPENNY Mary A Liverpool, St. John Liverpool 2107LP/1/258 WOODS William RICHARDS Mary A Liverpool, St. Thomas Liverpool 2131LP/1/103
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JenW
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11 May 2008 19:32 |
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Looks like it could be elizabeth in 1861
1861 England Census about Elizabeth Woods Name: Elizabeth Woods Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Windle Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 51 Household Members: Name Age Mary Fairclouth 20 Annie Jane Gamble 11 David Gamble 38 David Gamble 4 Elizabeth Gamble 35 Elizabeth Gamble 1 George Gamble 3 Elizabeth Gaskell 25 Belsy Gray 27 Eliza Hopkins 36 Grace Oneil 26 Elizabeth Woods 16 Only one i can find born in st helens in the 1851
1851 England Census about Elizabeth Woods Name: Elizabeth Woods Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Eccleston Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 174 Household Members: Name Age Ann Frost 30 Catherine Frost 28 John Frost 60 John Frost 2 Samuel Frost 19 Sarah Frost 62 Elizabeth Woods 4 Hannah Woods 7 Joseph Woods 9 Margret Woods 2 Mary Ann Woods 38 Mary Ann Woods 5 William Woods 34 William Woods 3 Mo
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JenW
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11 May 2008 19:25 |
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Scrap that, i just realised they dont have any children on the 1871 census so it can't be them as james, john and william would be on it with them.
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JenW
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11 May 2008 19:23 |
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Is this them in 1881?
1881 England Census about Elizabeth Houghton Name: Elizabeth Houghton Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Sutton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 34 Ellams Bridge Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Hairdresser Wife Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alice Ann Houghton 4 [Scholar] Elizabeth Houghton 34 [Hairdresser wife] Emily Houghton 7 months James Houghton 11 [labourer] John Houghton 40 [Hairdresser] John Thomas Houghton 15 [labourer] Jonathan Houghton 9 [Scholar] Sarah Houghton 2 [Infant] Walter Houghton 7 [Scholar] William Houghton 12 [labourer]
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Sylvia
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11 May 2008 18:58 |
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hello eric, sorry, i have been over long in replying to your very welcome info, but i have been out all day, doing a car boot at bolton, i'm getting some money in to help pay for certififcate's, travel, census search's, etc i'll give the library a ring tomorrow, and arrange to go there, very best regsrds sylvia
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Eric
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10 May 2008 22:33 |
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If you live in the St Helens area it may be worth your while visiting to take a look at the Church Records for the St Helens area, including Prescot, which can be viewed at the Central Library, Gamble Institute, Victoria Square, St Helens. Eric
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Eric
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10 May 2008 21:51 |
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Marriage Elizabeth Woods / John T. Houghton 12 February 1867 at St. Thomas's Church, Eccleston Prescot.. Eric
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Sylvia
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10 May 2008 21:39 |
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hiya catherine and jenna right on target, thank you, thank you, thank you, how do you do that? i can send for there marrage cert, and find out about her mum and dad now,five mins, my problem solved, my very best regards and admiration from sylvia
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LondonBelle
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10 May 2008 19:41 |
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If you are looking for her marriage to John then this will help Marriages Mar 1867 Houghton John Taylor Prescott 8b 705 WOODS Elizabeth Prescott 8b 705
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LondonBelle
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10 May 2008 19:34 |
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1871 census Name: Elizabeth Houghton Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John T Gender: Female Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Windle Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Address: 87 Duke St Prescot Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 59 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Houghton 26 born St Helens Lancashire John T Houghton 26 born Southport Lancs occup Clerk at County Court
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Sylvia
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10 May 2008 19:34 |
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hi catherine, thanks for a quick reply, yes i never thought of that, i dont know anything about her at all other than, whats on my grandfathers birth certififcate, just that her maiden name was woods i'd like to send for her marrage cert, but would they be able to do it with just 2 names, no date, or place
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JenW
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10 May 2008 19:20 |
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she married in st helens so my guess would be liverpool/st helens/southport (somewhere in Lancashire)
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LondonBelle
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10 May 2008 19:13 |
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Elizabeth could have remarried. Often the new husband didn't like bring up another mans child so the child was then brought up by a relative ie grandparents.
Where was Elizabeth born?
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Sylvia
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10 May 2008 19:04 |
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Hello to the community, is there anyone out there, who know's of elizabeth woods b c1851 Knock once for yes. and twice for no
Oh sorry!! but thats what it feels like just now, i thought i might as well try that, as, looking at the census, which got me no result's.
next. a bit of info on elizabeth she is my g- grandmother, she married john taylor houghton,book keeper of st helens, when living at duke street st helens in 1871 they had a son, wilfred taylor houghton, in (1879 jan Q) john died in prescot,
wilfred was then brought up by his grandparents, were's elizabeth gone?
i may never know, this is a shot in the dark, i'm hopeing somehow the community could make it a bulls eye best regards sylvia
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