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Re: Matilda Toft circa (1875)

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Carol

Carol Report 9 May 2008 09:21

Many, many thanks to all of you for your help.
I can now put Matilda to rest in peace, as we have told her story...THANK YOU!

Carol

Carol Report 8 May 2008 21:53

I have found out Matilda was not married before - it's definitely her born in Hanley 1872.
Ta!

Carol

Carol Report 8 May 2008 21:50

No birth certificates as yet

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 8 May 2008 15:07

Are you certain that matilda was married before??

1881

Matilda Toft
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent - Shelton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 37 Newcastle Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub registration district: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Toft 20
Arthur Toft 9
Charles Toft 53
Edith Toft
Fanny Toft 25
Harry Toft 5
Mary J. Toft 15
Matilda Toft 44
Matilda Toft 8
William Toft 18

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2726; Folio: 106; Page: 28; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341653.


Same family 1891 where somebody in their wisdom has suggested Billington as the surname but it is the name of Jane Toft's husband.

Matilda Toft
[Matilda Billington]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Parent's Name: Matilda
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Shelton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub registration district: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Billington 3/12
James Billington 30
Maud Billington 2
Matilda James 22
Agnes Toft 30
Arthur Toft 26
Edith Toft 16
Harry Toft 15
Jane Toft 26
Matilda Toft 52
Matilda Toft 19

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2171; Folio 87; Page 12; GSU roll: 6097281.

Andy

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 May 2008 14:10

On the 1891 census someone has added the name Matilda Billington to Matilda Toft's name. That is not right. If you look at the original, it's her sister Jane who was married to James Billington and they had 2 children, Maud 2 and Emma 3 months.

Joan

Joan Report 8 May 2008 14:09

That should read "Toft" as maiden name not Matilda. My apologies!

Joan

Joan Report 8 May 2008 14:06

Jane Toft on the 1891 census is actually Jane Billington, wife of James. She is the daughter of Matilda Toft (age 52, Head, grocer). It appears that Matilda is her maiden name.

Joan

K

K Report 8 May 2008 14:01

I wonder if Josh's first marriage was to Ellen (previous post) and this was her death?

Deaths Dec 1888 (>99%)
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WHALLEY Ellen 26 Wolstanton 6b 64

Joan

Joan Report 8 May 2008 14:01

1891 England Census
about Matilda Toft
Name: Matilda Toft
[Matilda Billington]
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Daughter
Parent's Name: Matilda
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Shelton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub registration district: Shelton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Billington 3/12
James Billington 30
Maud Billington 2
Matilda James 22
Agnes Toft 30
Arthur Toft 26
Edith Toft 16
Harry Toft 15
Jane Toft 26
Matilda Toft 52
Matilda Toft 19



Joan

Joan Report 8 May 2008 14:00

Are you sure that Matilda was married before?

1891 England Census
about Matilda Toft
Name: Matilda Toft
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Tinkers Clough, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Tyldesley With Shakerley
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Tyldesley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leigh
Sub registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Toft 10
David Toft 48
John Toft 8
Louis Toft 12
Mary A Toft 47
Matilda Toft 20



MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 May 2008 14:00

Matilda Toft was single in 1891, age 19, born Hanley, daughter of Matida Toft, widow.

K

K Report 8 May 2008 13:58

Possible first marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Bannan Mary Wolstanton 6b 228
KIRWIN Patrick Wolstanton 6b 228
Symonds Ellen Wolstanton 6b 228
Whalley Joshua Wolstanton 6b 228

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 8 May 2008 13:58

1891 England Census
about Joshua Whalley
Name: Joshua Whalley
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Knutton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Knutton St Mary
Town: Knutton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Wolstanton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza S Whalley 33
Joshua Whalley 29
Mary E Whalley 4
Ralph D Whalley 5


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SNAP

Joan

Joan Report 8 May 2008 13:57

You should consider getting a copy of Matilda Whalley's death certificate for the name of of her father or the marriage certificate to find out her maiden name.

Joan

K

K Report 8 May 2008 13:56

1891

Name: Joshua Whalley
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Knutton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton
Ecclesiastical parish: Knutton St Mary
Town: Knutton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub registration district: Wolstanton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza S Whalley 33 - SISTER - Housekeeper
Joshua Whalley 29
Mary E Whalley 4
Ralph D Whalley 5



Joan

Joan Report 8 May 2008 13:56

There is this marriage?


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Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Conway James George Holborn 1b 1088
SMITH Matilda Holborn 1b 1088
Toft John Thomas Holborn 1b 1088
Turner Catherine Holborn 1b 1088

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 8 May 2008 13:55

According to the 1901 census your Joshua (mistranscribed Walley) was born 1862, Wolstanton, Staffs.
Matilda was born 1872, Hanley, Staffs.

Artbeat

Artbeat Report 8 May 2008 13:55

Joshua whalley mar q1862 wolstanton vol 6b page 76

richard.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 8 May 2008 13:50

1901 England Census
about Matilda Walley
Name: Matilda Walley
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joshua
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent
Ecclesiastical parish: Penkhull St Thomas
Town: Stoke Upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub registration district: Stoke upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Joshua Walley 39
Matilda Walley 29
Ralph A Walley 15
May E Walley 14
Joshua Walley 4
Edith M Walley 3
Reginald Walley 1


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Joan

Joan Report 8 May 2008 13:50

Could this be Joshua's first marriage?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Joshua Whalley
Name: Joshua Whalley
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 228


Mary Bannan 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolstanton Staffordshire
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Patrick Kirwin 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolstanton Staffordshire
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Ellen Symonds 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolstanton Staffordshire
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Joshua Whalley 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Wolstanton Staffordshire