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Hi, I have traced my family back to james Hayes my great-great-great grandfather using the census upto 1861 after that they seem to be missing! I can't find any records of them prior to this date. can anyone help?

He was born in Hursley Hampshire. His wife was Jane (age 48) and they had children, Harry 20, Emily 17, Charles 13(my great great grandfather), Charlotte 10, Francis? 8 and George 4. I have traced back using census records 1901 - 1861 but then they disappear and can't find them anywhere!

You must know where he was born if you have him on the census.
Please add as much info as you can when you post a request.
Also you say you have traced him up to 1861 but say you have no records prior to this.

Yes, thank you. He was born in Hursley Hampshire. His wife was Jane (age 48) and they had children, Harry 20, Emily 17, Charles 13(my great great grandfather), Charlotte 10, Francis? 8 and George 4. As I say I have traced this using the census records 1901 - 1861 but cannot find anything proir to this. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated thank you.

There are 5 James Hayes born 1810 on the 1861 census, another 9 born 1811. Which one is yours?

That's better. Found them in 1861 so looked for children's names in 1851. Last name was mistranscribed as Hayre but someone has corrected it to Hayes.

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1675; Folio: 191; Page: 2; GSU roll: 193583.

Thank you for your help!

Possibly your James? From BVRI:

HAYES, James Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 7 Jan 1810 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: Francis HAYES
Mother: Anna
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

Children of James & Jane from BVRI:

HAYES, Eliza Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 25 Dec 1832 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, Mary Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 14 Mar 1835 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, John Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 7 Jan 1838 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, Henry Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Nov 1840 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, Emily Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 2 Jul 1843 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, James Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Nov 1846 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, Charles Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 2 Apr 1848 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, Charlotte Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 20 Oct 1850 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, Francis Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 19 Dec 1852 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, George Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 11 Jan 1857 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

HAYES, Thomas Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 5 May 1859 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Father: James HAYES
Mother: Jane
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1775 - 1859

1841 England Census
about James Hays
Name: James Hays
[James Hayes]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Hursley
Hundred: Buddlesgate (Lower Half)
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Hursley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Hays 30
Jane Hays 25
Elizas Hays 8
Mary Hays 6
John Hays 3
Henry Hays 8 Mo

Sounds like a possiblity thanks. How are managing to find these, I'm still searching 1851, I am very new at this.

Possible marriage of James & Jane? Mind you it's only one month before birth of first child!

HAYES, James Marriage
Wife: Jane WHITE
Marriage Date: 1 Nov 1832 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1767 - 1876

Possible marriage of James' parents?

HAYES, Francis Marriage
Wife: Anna COLSON
Marriage Date: 2 Oct 1794 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1767 - 1876

I'm kinda cheating. I happen to have the discs for BVRI (British Vital Records Index) and they happen to have records for Hursley, Hampshire.
You're just lucky, I've never been able to find any of my family on them!
They are extracted from parish records so are reliable.

Brilliant thanks so much, how do you get hold of the discs? can you get them through the web? There are quite a few of my relatives on other branches that I'm struggling to find but started with this one by chance really.

Your gt. gt. grandfather's marriage?

HAYES, Charles Age: 21 Marriage
Wife: Mary Anna KERTON Age: 21
Marriage Date: 30 May 1868 Recorded in: Hursley, Hampshire, England
Husband's Father: James HAYES
Wife's Father: John KERTON
Source: FHL Film 1041208 Dates: 1767 - 1876

I believe that you can order the discs from the Familysearch website. Not sure how much they cost. There are people on this site who have purchased them recently because I remember seeing a post recently that there was a delay in receiving them because of a shortage in supply.

Thank you for all your help. I've found out so much more than I would have done searching by myself.

nicola
have sent you pm
regards
sue