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Sorry everyone, didn’t mean to waste anyone's time genuinely interested in answers any help I can get. Thank you to everyone who has sent info much appreciated!! I do have a thread on trying to find at the moment regarding William Crook - was looking for relatives of William Crook. Sorry again

Emily

This is duplicated on Trying to find

Charles birth cert says father is Frederick - profession males attendant at lunatic asylum

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1135877

I'll leave it to the helpful helpers to see who wasted how much time.

Board rule, Emily: ONE post per subject.

It isn't a game show where two unconnected groups compete to see which answers you like best.

Emily

re census returns. You're right about people putting the names they were known by or used as opposed to their "official" names. Seems quite common practice. The censuses were for statistical purposes - it mattered little to the enumerator (or anyone else) what names went down as what was wanted from the census info was info on numbers of people in the area, whether the population was growing, shrinking, ageing, getting younger etc.

So, be a bit "fluid" in your census searching.

Jill

well,you have the marriage to Hannah ,so it must be the right one,and the birth cert for charles should have his fathers name

Thanks Sablon,

I think it must be as well, there are too many links to think it is someone else. Lots of people tell me that (confusingly) people sometimes put the name they use rather than the name they were given on census info.

It looks like he is your Fred

for ref

Births Mar 1896 (>99%)
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Crook Charles Frederick St. Thomas 5b 49
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Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Crook John Frederick T St. Thomas 5b 81
German Hannah St. Thomas 5b 81



The district St. Thomas is an alternative name for St Thomas and it is in the county of Devon

Hi everyone,

I know my last thread on this was some time ago, but I have been ordering birth certs etc and now i have been re-reading my threads for possible matches.

Reggie looking at your info and your mention of a John Frederick T Crook and a Hannah German, I have come across this pair in my research and I still have no idea if they are my Fred and Annie. I have several docs that show MY Frederick Crook as a male attendant at a lunatic asylum. Strangely in a later census John Frederick Thomas Crook is down as an attendant at a lunatic asylum (is this my Fred?!!). I have Charles' birth cert and I think (writing not great) it says his mother is Hannah German. I am so confused and wondering who is who!!! Any help would be great

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OK, so the occupation on the cert matches that on the 1901 census, so it does seem to be the correct family..............posting 1901 purely for reference......

Name: Frederick Crook
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: 1872
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Exminster, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Sowton
Ecclesiastical parish: Sowton
Town: Sowton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Topsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Crook 29
Annie Crook 30 b. Bridford
Charles Crook 5 b. Heavitree
William Crook 2 b. Exminster

Annie's birthplace of Bridford was in St Thomas registration district.....this is the only transcribed marriage for a Fred* Crook* in that district

Charles Cocks 1895 Oct-Nov-Dec St Thomas Devon
John Frederick T Crook 1895 Oct-Nov-Dec St Thomas Devon
Hannah German 1895 Oct-Nov-Dec St Thomas Devon
Sarah Ann Vickery 1895 Oct-Nov-Dec St Thomas Devon


And this is from 1891 census...............

Name: Annie Germon
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Bridford, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Bridford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bridford
Town: Alphington
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Christow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Germon 20
Jane Germon 57
John Germon 60
Thomas H Germon 15

Purely circumstantial, but........................

Reggie, Frederick's occupation on Charles' marriage cert was male attendant. Also noticed a few spelling mistakes in my last entry!!!!

It seems too good a match not to be. I have Charles Crook as his son on 1901 which matches my marraige cert and professions match.

Sorry when i said later I actually meant earlier!!

On the marraige cert I have for Charles it said he married in 1923 and he was age 27

To find Annie's maiden name, go to freebmd website and look for possible marriage............or buy the the birth cert of one of the children (more reliable).

What was Frederick's occupation stated to be when his son married?

Are you 100% certain that the Frederick you have located on 1901 is the correct person?

When was Charles born? His birth cert would be worth getting...........to eliminate any possible doubts.

There isn't a later census...........1911 will not be made available to the public for some time yet................

1881? Sorry have to go out now but will look back later - there were also a number of Crooks living next door to Frederick in 1901


Name: Fredk. T. Crook
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elily T.
Gender: Male
Where born: Exminster, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Exminster
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: Towsington St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: Kenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia T. Crook 12
Elily T. Crook 41
Eliza S. Crook 2
Fredk. T. Crook 9
Henry G. Crook 7
John Crook 40
Wm.M. Crook 6

I have come to a standstill on a search and any help or advice would be great. I originally became stuck with my great grandfather (Charles Crook), but I managed to get his marriage certificate and from there find out who his father was (Frederick Crook). I am now stuck on Frederick. From the 1901 census I see that he was married to Annie (no idea of her maiden name) and that he was born c. 1872 in Exminster, Devon. I would love to find out who his parents were, if he had any brother or sisters and what Annie’s maiden name was. Frederick’s profession in 1901 census was listed as male attendant, anyone any idea what this is?


I cant find him on a later census for some reason.