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help with scotland john fleming born abt 1876 scot

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Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 14:25

hi glitter baby and margaret i am still chuffed cheers to you both thanks so much ken

Margaret

Margaret Report 2 May 2008 13:46

Here is John Kennedy's birth certificate

28 November 1903 at 58 Roodpark Street Govan Glasgow

Father: James Campbell Kennedy Engine Fitter and Mary Jane Kennedy (maiden surname Little)

Margaret

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 May 2008 13:44

Have you looked at the IGI

A possible marriage in 1875 for John Fleming to Mary Hendry

29 APR 1875 Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland



1881 possible
Name: John Fleming
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Mary H
Gender: Male
Where born: Cam'Nethan, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 628
Registration district: Cambusnethan
Civil Parish: Cambusnethan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: No 9 Store Row
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 134
Line: 22
Roll: cssct1881_207
Household Members: Name Age
John Fleming 5
Joseph Fleming 3 Mo
Mary H Fleming 23


Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 13:19

hi. glitter baby,thankyou also as john k fleming was my gt uncle .and proud of his scottish roots so this is just magic best wishes ken

Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 13:13

hi. margaret ,you are just brilliant,thankyou so much as john k fleming is my gt uncle and very much thought off he of course is no longer with us .did not no too much about his scottish roots so many thanks to you bestwishes ken

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 May 2008 13:10

1891 poss

Name: William Little
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: Barony, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 628
Registration district: Cambusnethan
Civil Parish: Cambusnethan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Stabb Court
Occupation: Hammerman
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 45
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1891_230
Household Members: Name Age
John Little 22
Mary J Little 10 Old Monkland, Lanarkshire
Susan Little 40 Ireland
Susan Little 16
William Little 57
William Woods 22

1881
Name: William Little
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 625/2
Registration district: Holytown
Civil Parish: Bothwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 17 Square
Occupation: Hammersman
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 2
Line: 10
Roll: cssct1881_204
Household Members: Name Age
John Little 11
Mary Jane Little 1 Old Monkland
Susan Little 39 Ireland
Susan Little 7
William Little 49

Margaret

Margaret Report 2 May 2008 12:54

16/07/1909 at the Co-operative Hall Newmains

John Kennedy Aged 33 Batchelor Sergeant Royal Scots address 3 Hoope(?) Street Newmains

Mary Jane Kennedy Aged 30 Widow Tobacconist address 11 Main Street Newmains

John's Parents:

John Fleming (Blast Furnace Labourer)
Mary Fleming (maiden surname Hendry) deceeased

Mary Jane's Parents

William Little (Hammerman) deceased
Susan Greenion? (formerly Little maiden surname Little)

Sorry I can't look at Robert's birth certificate as it is outwith the timeline for viewing on line.

I would guess that John Kennedy Fleming is Mary Jane's son from her previous marriage and that he took the surname Fleming when his morther remarried.

I'll dig around and see if I can find anything else.

Margaret

Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 12:35

hi margaret if you could look for me please yes it does indeed sound like them as robert is there son who also is on 1930 us cencus birth place scotland he also emmigrated with them(john and mary)thankyou ken

Margaret

Margaret Report 2 May 2008 12:24

Think I might have found him.

1909 in Newmains (near Glasgow)

John Fleming aged 33 to Mary Jane Kennedy aged 30 (widow). There is a Robert Fleming born in the same area in 1910. If you think this might be them I'll look at the certificate for you (got some spare credits)

Margaret

Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 12:23

hi, margaret oh well back to the drawing board so to speak ken

Margaret

Margaret Report 2 May 2008 12:17

Hi Kenneth

I am afraid that's not the right one. He is a John Kelt Fleming.

Margaret

Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 12:16

hi, margaret i hadnt thought of that one kennedy being her maiden surname mary born abt 1880 scotland with mum and dad as scotish parents as stated on1930 us cencus as they have to give on the us cencus their parentage of birth place. is the only thing i have.ken

Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 12:09

hi. margaret kennedy was the only middle name he had as john kennedy fleming will send for cert thanks margaret i would think that john k fleming 1904 lanarkshire is the correct one ken

Margaret

Margaret Report 2 May 2008 12:05

Do you have any idea of Mary's maiden name - I'm wondering if it was perhaps Kennedy

Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 12:04

hi. glitter baby,thanks ok will send away for the cert for john k fleming as at the moment have worked on family search and us cen,didnt no that a parents marriage date would be found on childs birth cert this scotland thing is all new to me bestwishes ken

Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 11:49

hello, margaret yes john kennedy fleming was born 28 november 1903,but i have just taken a look at the 1930 us cencus and it says that john fleming(father)age 54 born scotland.his first marriage was at the age of 34yrs old and wife mary at time of first marriage was 30yrs old, so doing the sums1909 /1910 could be the marriage date in scotland its possible that john kennedy fleming was born abt 7yrs before marriage date and that robert fleming (their other son) born abt 1909/1910 scotland also son of john and mary. both john and mary have scotland parentage. hope not to confusing ken

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 May 2008 11:44

ScotlandsPeople does give one match on John K Fleming in 1904 in Lanarkshire but none for John Kennedy Fleming.

If you wish to view the cert you need credits on ScotlandsPeople. £6 gets you 30 credits. If used carefully will get you up to 5 certificates.

Scottish birth certs usually give date of marraige for the parents.

Margaret

Margaret Report 2 May 2008 10:38

Hi Kenneth

Do you have any other information on John Kennedy Fleming. His birth certificate should give you the date and place of his parents marriage but there is nothing showing for him anywhere in Scotland in 1903. Did he have any other middle names.

Margaret

Kenneth

Kenneth Report 2 May 2008 10:16

hi, thankyou for reply christine with this one i belive john kennedy fleming born 1903 glasgow was there first child ,so it must be the marriage of john and mary must be about 1901 ish as the dates of births info on usa immigration paper are stated in 1922

tinaj

tinaj Report 2 May 2008 10:03

John Flemming in Glasgow possibly?

Name: John Flemming
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Lizzie
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambuslang), Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 627
Registration district: Cambuslang
Civil Parish: Cambuslang
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 9 Gladdan Pl
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 14
Household schedule number: 119
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1901_253
Household Members: Name Age
Alex Fleming 11
Jane Fleming 14
Lizzie Fleming 19
Robert Fleming 16
Thomas Fleming 9
Andrew Flemming 29
John Flemming 22
Lizzie Flemming 55
William Flemming 64
William Flemming 27


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Source Citation: Parish: Cambuslang; ED: 14; Line: 24; Year: 1901.

Do you know that he was married by 1901?

Christine