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elizabeth or peter mohan

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M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 14:35

Many thanks to you all for your help with this. It is very much appreciated. Im off to do the school run now so will be gone a mo! Thanks for the tip on bookmarks!

Marie.x

M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 14:13

Hi Elouise,
Not sure at all now about Micheal.
Another family member had done some research a couple of years ago and they gave me what they had. They had elizabeth as daughter to a micheal from ireland but it was vague. another relative said they thought it was micheal too. i had found an elizabeth mohan(born abt 1888) who was one of eight to a micheal (of ireland)and matilda(of edinburgh) mohan in vaughan street mbro 1891. Ithen sent for the wedding cert and found out dad was Peter! so start again! marie

M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 14:02

Thanks for that tip, I didnt even know about saving it! will do that. My printer kindly blew up a couple of days ago! i knew something would come up were I needed it! :-D Marie.

M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 13:58

Thanks Elouise,
I should have been able to work it out! just need to confirm if ellen is my elizabeth! Marie

Julie

Julie Report 28 Apr 2008 13:52

Yes thats right

can you not print all this off..of if you look to the left, and see the man with the top hat...it says Bookmark this, click on that, & it will save it to my bookmarks...i won't delete any info and you can look at it when you like then lol

M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 13:49

hi julie, Im trying to scribble all this down quickly! is the marriage for patricks father, thomas, to mary kingcaide? Marie.

Julie

Julie Report 28 Apr 2008 13:46

Hi Marie

I'd say Mary was in service (working), i have a look to see if i can see her


Theres 2 coming up, so which one is correct, i have no idea

Mary Fox
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Cousin
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
James Fox 6
Mary Fox 16
Rose Fox 11
William Fox 15
Elizabeth Keenan 23
Stephen Keenan 21
___________________

Mary A Fox
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 243
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Fox 16
Agnes Moore 32
Agnes M Moore 4
Catherine Moore 11
Fredrick Moore 19
John Moore 40
John W Moore 17
Thomas H Moore 2
___________________


I would more go with the 2nd one, as the Fox's in the 1st one are down as Cousins to the head which is Elizabeth Keenan




M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 13:41

hi Julie,
Thanks, it looks as though the daughter Mary must have died at some point between the two census's or would she have been old enough to marry?

Marie.

Julie

Julie Report 28 Apr 2008 13:30

This might be their marriage...1 of the childrens B/C will confirm Mums maiden name

Patrick Fox
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Easington
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 654 (click
Spouse...Mary Kingcaide

Julie

Julie Report 28 Apr 2008 13:27

1881

Eliza Fox
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Linthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 40 Lr Dean St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Eliza Fox 2
Mary Fox 26 ... Ireland
Patrick Fox
Thomas Fox 26... Manchester, Lancashire


Patrick is 3 months

Julie

Julie Report 28 Apr 2008 13:25

Sorry my mistake on the other one that was the 1901 and this is the 1891

Patrick Fox
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hildas
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 60
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Fox 12
James Fox 8
Joseph Fox 2/12
Margaret Fox 36
Mary Fox 6
Patrick Fox 10
Thomas Fox 39
Thomas Fox 4


M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 13:25

Hi Elouise,
Thanks, Julie had found the 98 lower calthorpe address too. On the other infoabout peter in 1871, what were the relationships to each other? their ages look mad! marie

M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 13:02

Hi Julie, This is the same one! I have traced back to thomas and mary but it ends there. Can you see the same family in 1881? I supose I can only get those three birth certs to see if father is a Peter? no other way is there? thanks, Marie

Julie

Julie Report 28 Apr 2008 12:41

Heres Patrick in the 1901

Patrick Fox
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Fox 22
James Fox 18
Joseph Fox 10
Maggie A Fox 7
Mary Fox 44
Patrick Fox 20
Thomas Fox 46
Thomas Fox 14


Julie

Julie Report 28 Apr 2008 12:39

Hi Marie

Here is the birth for that Ellen

Ellen Mohan
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 585 (click to see oth
________________________

But the problem being there are 2 birth for Elizabeth

Elizabeth Mohan
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 599 (click to
___

Elizabeth Mohan
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968)
County: Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 564 (click


Have found Elizabeth with dad Patrick in the 1901



M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 12:37

Hi SueS,
Thanks for getting back to me.
I was told by a family member that they believed their grandad was called Micheal Mohan. I know the Patrick on the cert is the right one. The certs details are as follows-
Patrick Fox, 21 years, bachelor, iron worker, 3 lawson st m'bro,Thomas Fox, iron works labourer. Elizabeth Mohan, 21 years, spinster, no profession, 43 Lawson st m'bro, Peter Mohan (deceased), General labourer. Witnesses were James Fox and Ellen Conners on 7/4/1902 at St Mary's Cathedral.

M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 12:27

hello julie,

This looks promising. Is it possible that her middle name is elizabeth? are you allowed to not disclose this on a marriage cert? any idea of where I go from here? Thanks, Marie.

SueS

SueS Report 28 Apr 2008 12:01

it might help if we knew what real facts you have and what was unexpected about the marriage certificate.

How about more details from the cert...Patrick's occupation and age (sometimes 21 was entered meaning parties were of 'full age') Any obvious family members as witnesses?

Julie

Julie Report 28 Apr 2008 11:25

I was unable to find an Elizabeth, but wondered if she were this Ellen

1881

Ellen Mohan
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Peter
Mother's Name: Helen
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Linthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 98 Lower Calthorpe St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bridget Mohan 6
Catherine Mohan 4
Ellen Mohan 2
Helen Mohan 34
Mary Mohan 13
Peter Mohan 33

1891..and Mum is a widower

Ellen Mohan
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Osmotherley
Ecclesiastical parish: Osmotherley
Town: Osmotherley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Northallerton
Sub registration district: Northallerton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bridget Mohan 16
Catherine Mohan 14
Ellen Mohan 43
Ellen Mohan 11
Mary Mohan 23




M

M Report 28 Apr 2008 11:12

Hello, can someone help me please?

I have the marriage cert for elizabeth mohan and patrick fox. Her father is peter mohan, a general labourer, residing 43 lawson st. middlesbrough. He is deceased. Elizabeth is 21 years old when she married in april 1902. On recieving the cert I now know that info I was working on was wrong and I cant seem to find anything on either of these two at all. Dont know where they were born or anything. IF anyone can shed any light then would be very grateful indeed.

Moob