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28 Apr 2008 14:35 |
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Many thanks to you all for your help with this. It is very much appreciated. Im off to do the school run now so will be gone a mo! Thanks for the tip on bookmarks!
Marie.x
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28 Apr 2008 14:13 |
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Hi Elouise, Not sure at all now about Micheal. Another family member had done some research a couple of years ago and they gave me what they had. They had elizabeth as daughter to a micheal from ireland but it was vague. another relative said they thought it was micheal too. i had found an elizabeth mohan(born abt 1888) who was one of eight to a micheal (of ireland)and matilda(of edinburgh) mohan in vaughan street mbro 1891. Ithen sent for the wedding cert and found out dad was Peter! so start again! marie
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28 Apr 2008 14:02 |
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Thanks for that tip, I didnt even know about saving it! will do that. My printer kindly blew up a couple of days ago! i knew something would come up were I needed it! :-D Marie.
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28 Apr 2008 13:58 |
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Thanks Elouise, I should have been able to work it out! just need to confirm if ellen is my elizabeth! Marie
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28 Apr 2008 13:52 |
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Yes thats right
can you not print all this off..of if you look to the left, and see the man with the top hat...it says Bookmark this, click on that, & it will save it to my bookmarks...i won't delete any info and you can look at it when you like then lol
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28 Apr 2008 13:49 |
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hi julie, Im trying to scribble all this down quickly! is the marriage for patricks father, thomas, to mary kingcaide? Marie.
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28 Apr 2008 13:46 |
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Hi Marie
I'd say Mary was in service (working), i have a look to see if i can see her
Theres 2 coming up, so which one is correct, i have no idea
Mary Fox Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Cousin Gender: Female Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Middlesbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Middlesborough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age James Fox 6 Mary Fox 16 Rose Fox 11 William Fox 15 Elizabeth Keenan 23 Stephen Keenan 21 ___________________
Mary A Fox Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Middlesbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 243 Household Members: Name Age Mary A Fox 16 Agnes Moore 32 Agnes M Moore 4 Catherine Moore 11 Fredrick Moore 19 John Moore 40 John W Moore 17 Thomas H Moore 2 ___________________
I would more go with the 2nd one, as the Fox's in the 1st one are down as Cousins to the head which is Elizabeth Keenan
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28 Apr 2008 13:41 |
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hi Julie, Thanks, it looks as though the daughter Mary must have died at some point between the two census's or would she have been old enough to marry?
Marie.
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28 Apr 2008 13:30 |
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This might be their marriage...1 of the childrens B/C will confirm Mums maiden name
Patrick Fox Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Easington County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 654 (click Spouse...Mary Kingcaide
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28 Apr 2008 13:27 |
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1881
Eliza Fox Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Durham, Durham, England Civil Parish: Linthorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 40 Lr Dean St Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 47 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza Fox 2 Mary Fox 26 ... Ireland Patrick Fox Thomas Fox 26... Manchester, Lancashire Patrick is 3 months
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28 Apr 2008 13:25 |
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Sorry my mistake on the other one that was the 1901 and this is the 1891
Patrick Fox Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Linthorpe Ecclesiastical parish: St Hildas Town: Middlesborough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 60 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza Fox 12 James Fox 8 Joseph Fox 2/12 Margaret Fox 36 Mary Fox 6 Patrick Fox 10 Thomas Fox 39 Thomas Fox 4
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28 Apr 2008 13:25 |
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Hi Elouise, Thanks, Julie had found the 98 lower calthorpe address too. On the other infoabout peter in 1871, what were the relationships to each other? their ages look mad! marie
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28 Apr 2008 13:02 |
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Hi Julie, This is the same one! I have traced back to thomas and mary but it ends there. Can you see the same family in 1881? I supose I can only get those three birth certs to see if father is a Peter? no other way is there? thanks, Marie
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28 Apr 2008 12:41 |
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Heres Patrick in the 1901
Patrick Fox Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Middlesbrough Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Middlesbrough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 114 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Fox 22 James Fox 18 Joseph Fox 10 Maggie A Fox 7 Mary Fox 44 Patrick Fox 20 Thomas Fox 46 Thomas Fox 14
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28 Apr 2008 12:39 |
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Hi Marie
Here is the birth for that Ellen
Ellen Mohan Year of Registration: 1879 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968) County: Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 585 (click to see oth ________________________
But the problem being there are 2 birth for Elizabeth
Elizabeth Mohan Year of Registration: 1883 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968) County: Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 599 (click to ___
Elizabeth Mohan Year of Registration: 1884 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Middlesbrough (1875-1968) County: Yorkshire - North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 564 (click
Have found Elizabeth with dad Patrick in the 1901
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28 Apr 2008 12:37 |
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Hi SueS, Thanks for getting back to me. I was told by a family member that they believed their grandad was called Micheal Mohan. I know the Patrick on the cert is the right one. The certs details are as follows- Patrick Fox, 21 years, bachelor, iron worker, 3 lawson st m'bro,Thomas Fox, iron works labourer. Elizabeth Mohan, 21 years, spinster, no profession, 43 Lawson st m'bro, Peter Mohan (deceased), General labourer. Witnesses were James Fox and Ellen Conners on 7/4/1902 at St Mary's Cathedral.
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28 Apr 2008 12:27 |
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hello julie,
This looks promising. Is it possible that her middle name is elizabeth? are you allowed to not disclose this on a marriage cert? any idea of where I go from here? Thanks, Marie.
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28 Apr 2008 12:01 |
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it might help if we knew what real facts you have and what was unexpected about the marriage certificate.
How about more details from the cert...Patrick's occupation and age (sometimes 21 was entered meaning parties were of 'full age') Any obvious family members as witnesses?
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28 Apr 2008 11:25 |
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I was unable to find an Elizabeth, but wondered if she were this Ellen
1881
Ellen Mohan Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Peter Mother's Name: Helen Gender: Female Where born: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Linthorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 98 Lower Calthorpe St Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Middlesbrough Sub registration district: Middlesbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Bridget Mohan 6 Catherine Mohan 4 Ellen Mohan 2 Helen Mohan 34 Mary Mohan 13 Peter Mohan 33
1891..and Mum is a widower
Ellen Mohan Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Osmotherley Ecclesiastical parish: Osmotherley Town: Osmotherley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Northallerton Sub registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Bridget Mohan 16 Catherine Mohan 14 Ellen Mohan 43 Ellen Mohan 11 Mary Mohan 23
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28 Apr 2008 11:12 |
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Hello, can someone help me please?
I have the marriage cert for elizabeth mohan and patrick fox. Her father is peter mohan, a general labourer, residing 43 lawson st. middlesbrough. He is deceased. Elizabeth is 21 years old when she married in april 1902. On recieving the cert I now know that info I was working on was wrong and I cant seem to find anything on either of these two at all. Dont know where they were born or anything. IF anyone can shed any light then would be very grateful indeed.
Moob
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