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Hi, Please could anyone help me to locate the following two people on 1901 Census

SAMUEL LUNGLEY
MARGARET ROSE LUNGLEY (nee BASEDEN)

They were married March quarter in 1900. (St Saviour 19 199)

I have a birth certifcate for one of their daughters, RUTH EMMA LUNGLEY born 27th October 1905

I can't find either parent on 1901. At the time of Ruth's both they lived at 28 Beaconsfield Road Walthamstow.

It seems a mystery that they're not there. Does anyone have access to addresses for 1901 Census please?

I would be glad of any help.

Many thanks

Andy

Do you know where they were born or their ages from their M/C, as it can help to find them

Dads names from their M/C too

Just for info as brides name is other way round

Marriages Mar 1900 (>99%)
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Baseden Rosa Margaret St. Saviour 1d 199
Cartwright Alfred St.Saviour. 1d 199
Lungley Samuel St. Saviour 1d 199
WESTON Louisa Martha M St. Saviour 1d 199

Her birth and Brides name is showing as Rora

Rora Margaret Baseden
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 198 (click to see others

But the image is smudged so could be Rosa

Sorry, I can't find them. According to the marriage index her name is Rosa Margaret and not Margaret Rose.

Kath. x

1901 this one is married and occupation of tailor but miles away from London

Name: Samuel Lungley
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Moss Side
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 70
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
James G Frith 5
John Frith 52
Wilhemina Frith 38
Samuel Lungley 20

Hi Julie,

Sorry, the only information I have been able to research is:

Samuel Percy Lungley was born 1879 Southwark
Margaret Rose Lungley (nee Baseden) was born 1873 Brighton

Margaret's parents were Frederick Baseden & Katherine Rose

Guess I'll have to send for the marriage certificate. It just seem odd that they're not on 1901 Census.

Thanks for you support. I am very appreciative of your help.

Andy

1891 poss

Name: Rosa Basedew
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William H
Mother's Name: Rosa E
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Cris Basedew 20
Florence Basedew 18
Rosa Basedew 21
Rosa E Basedew 58
Walden T Basedew 30
William H Basedew 62

Does not match on parents?

1891 this looks a better match

Name: Kosa Margaret Bandon
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Sutton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Sutton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Epsom
Sub registration district: Carshalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Kosa Margaret Bandon 18
Alfred Thomas Stater 35
Elizabeth Stater 62
James Stater 64
Makaw Stone 22

Hi Glitter baby,

This looks promising. I have just looked again at their daughter's birth certificate (Ruth Emma Lungley) and Mum IS Rosa Margueritta.

As Rosa's mum's name is Rosa E on 1891, I guess it could be Rosa Emma and this name was passed on the her daughter! What do you think?

Thanks also to everyone else on this mission!!

Andy

This one is mistranscribed Singley:
1901 census
9 Mermaid Court, St. George the Marker, Southwark, London
Rosa Marg't Lungley, head(wife), 27, shirt maker, born Sussex, Brighton
Ellen Rose, dau, 5, born Paddington
Cyril George, son, 4, born Paddington
Frederick Samuel, son, 1, born Bermondsey

Mar 1900
Lungley Frederick Samuel St.Saviour 1d 41


Well spotted Margaret

Jun 1896
Lungley Cyril George Paddington 1a 60

Query on dates of birth given the date of marriage??

Checked Free BMD, Maureen, marriage is correct.

Andy

Please don't rely on that birth you found:


Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
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Lungley Samuel Percy St. Saviour 1d 74

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Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Lungley Samuel Percy 1 St. Saviour 1d 41

Angela

Hi everyone,

Good point Angela, thanks for advice, that birth was only speculation..... one to be tried and tested.

I will save everyone's hard work then send for Marriage certificate I think.

Thank you once again to EVERYONE who has so kindly helped me this afternoon.

Andy

Andy

There's a Samuel Lungley, b1866, on the WW1 records on Ancestry. His address is given as 82a Turner Rd., Walthamstow. Could this be your Samuel? It should give next of kin & dependants on the image.

I've got to go & sort the dinner now, but may be back later.

UPDATE

Have just checked, his wife is Rosa Margaret, nee Baseden. He has a daughter Ruth.

Angela

Angela

On his attestation papers he said he was married 12 Feb. 1895, Registry Office, St. Saviours, Southwark.
The only children listed are:
Cissie, 7 May 04
Ruth, 27 Oct. 05
Arthur, 2 May 07
All born Lea Bridge Rd., Walthamstow.

I think Samuel was a carreer soldier. Looks like he first enlisted in 1886, gave father's name as William, Honey Pot lane, Wix, Essex.
When he was discharged in 02 his address was 9 Mermaid Court, Borough S E. ( the same address where I found Rosa Marg't in 1901)

Hi Angela & Margaret.

This really is so kind of you both to continue searching. What dedication! I am indeed very grateful.

I'm not a member of Ancestry so please could you tell me about the WW1 Records. Are they like CWGraves? How come there is detail about his daughter, Ruth?

What are his attestation papers and how can I access these myself? Seems some difference in the marriage date as I have the marraige as March quarter 1900. I will check that on freebmd. The dates for Ruth's birth as identical to her birth certificate so we know we have the right one!!

Lastly, please could you mail me the Census reference numbers for 1891 and 1901.

Thank you SO much for all your help. I am preparing a tree for Ruth's son's birthday in June and had come to a standstill so you can imagine how delighted I am to receive all the details you have found for me.

Kind regards,
Andy