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Too true, Debbie. Sometimes they can throw a spanner in the works.

I've been looking for Elizabeth Chattaway but she's being elusive. Too many abt the same place & time. Check back later as I may find something.

Ozi.

Hey Ozzi
Were talkin my relly's here - sometimes dont you just wish you had never bothered to ask about someone , they can be so mind boggling , lol

I would say she's more likely to be a niece or a young cousin.

I don't think she would be her daughter as I believe that would be recorded as the relationship, but stranger things have happened.

Ozi.

Thankyou Ozzi & Jill
appreciated
x

As Catherine was abt 44 when she married James, here's a possibility.

IGI Individual Record
CATHERINE GARNER
Marriages:
Spouse: JOSEPH CHATTAWAY
Marriage: 15 NOV 1804 Hampton In Arden, Warwick, England
Source Information:
Batch No.: M010711
Dates: 1599 - 1731, 1732 - 1812, 1813 - 1877

Can't find any children for them.

Yes Ozzi I see her Elizabeth Chattaway - omg here goes my ancestors - so is she possibly Catherines daughter maybe ? sister ?

No Debbie. James & Catherine are Selina's parents.

IGI Individual Record
JAMES GIBSON
Marriages:
Spouse: CATHERINE CHATTAWAY
Marriage: 20 DEC 1824 Hampton In Arden, Warwick, England
Source Information:
Batch No.: M010711
Dates: 1599 - 1731, 1732 - 1812, 1813 - 1877

Did you notice there was a Chattaway with them in 1861?

Ozi.

Well I would think Catherine was getting on a bit for kids by then , takes all sorts I guess

Hmm right ok , quite an age gap between husband n wife then

Lol
Well that must beat all the mis- transcriptions Ozzi - So Thomas Gibson aged 80 is really Catherine , Elizabeth is Catherine's mother , I presume James is Catherine's son - gosh quite a gap between Selina n James

IGI Individual Record
SELINA GIBSON
Christening: 29 JUN 1825 Hampton In Arden, Warwick, England
Parents:
Father: JAMES GIBSON
Mother: CATHERINE
Source Information:
Batch No.: C010712
Dates: 1813 - 1848

No other children on that batch no.

1871 England Census
Name: James Gibson
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Wroxhall, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Balsall
Town: Balsall
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: Grange Farm, Needless End

Occupation: farmer of 130 acres employing 3 men & 1 boy

Condition as to marriage: widow

Disability: View image
Registration district: Solihull
Sub registration district: Knowle
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
James Gibson 70
Ann Hopkins 28 - niece
Ann Lewis 17 - servant
William Watts 18 - servant


1881 England Census
about James Gibson
Name: James Gibson
Age: 80
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Wroxhall, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Balsall
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: Grange Farm
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Farmer Of 120 Acrs

Registration district: Solihull
Sub registration district: Knowle
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Gibson 80
Ann Gibson Hopkins 36 - niece; Housekeeper
Henry Hunt 17 - servant
William Kelsey 22 - servant
Elizabeth Jane Whitehead 13 - servant


1891 England Census
Name: James Gibson
Age: 92
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Uncle
Gender: Male
Where born: Wroxhall, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: St Michael and St John
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Coventry
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Bailey Lane

Occupation: formerly farmer

Registration district: Coventry
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann G Hopkins 40 - dressmaker
James Gibson 92
Harriett S Fletcher 29 - boarder
Elizabeth J Eykelbosch 23 - boarder

Believe it or not, Thomas is actually Catherine!!

1861 England Census
Name: James Gibson
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Wroxhall, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Hampton in Arden
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: Grange Farm

Occupation: farmer of 130 acres employing 3 labourers & 1 boy.

Registration district: Solihull
Sub registration district: Knowle
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Gibson 59
Thomas Gibson 80
Elizabetha Chattaway 22 - servant
William Hodkinson 35 - servant
Hannah Ward 10 - servant

Thanks Jill what is the realtionships in the '51
Deb x

I've posted the household in the order they are written on the page. Therefore Elizabeth could be his mother.

1841 England Census
Name: Selina Gebson
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Berkeswell
Hundred: Hemlingford (Solihull Division)
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Meriden
Sub registration district: Meriden
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Gebson 40 - farmer
Catharine Gebson 60
Selina Gebson 15
Elizabeth Gebson 70

There are also these 3 servants:
William Milkins 15
William Stockley 20
Mary Swift 15


In 1851 James is a farmer of 140 acres & 2 labourers.

1851
Name: Celina Gibson
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Female
Where born: Balsall, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Berkswell
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Meriden
Sub registration district: Coleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 5c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Daffern 19 servant
Catherine Gibson 71
Celina Gibson 25
James Gibson 51
William Roberts 24 servant

Selina Gibson born 1826 Balsall.
Thankyou
Deb x