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I think they came for the Channel Isles - probalby from France before. There is a possible John on the right age in the Navy on board ship in 1861. I love the FreeBMD interpretation of his surname

thankyou K never heard of that surname DE GRUCHY before sounds french to me cheers ken

I wonder if this is Susan's marraige


JOHN DE GRUCHY Pedigree
Male Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: SUSAN AIREY Family
Marriage: 13 APR 1864 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England


On FreeBMD a lovely mistranscrition!!

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Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%)
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Airey Susan Pancras 1b 77
Cox William Smith Pancras 1b 77
De Grunchy John Pancras 1b 77
Ingram Mary Ann Elizabeth Pancras 1b 77

i had not given that a thought that perhaps mary had been married pre to the marriage to charles j jones, thankyou,as for charles j jones i no that he was married before to a jane clayton who died in 1899,then he married mary.it does fit into place thankyou all for your help i have been trying to work this one out for a while bestwishes ken

1871 Same family

Name: Susan D Gruchey
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Eye, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Islington Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
James Custance 6 months
Jane Custance 1
John Custance 41
John Custance 5
Mary Ann Gruchey 5
Susan D Gruchey 38 Housekeeper Widow b Eye

Findmypast has Mary De Guchy age 22 living in Islington.

Sorry got no credits left to look at details and not found her yet on Ancestry

Been trying to find Charles Jones and the children in 1891 to see if they are his but not having any luck

1881

Name: Mary A. De Gruchy
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Susan
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 5 Stanmore St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert H. Brewer 22 boarder
Mary A. De Gruchy 15
Susan De Gruchy 53 b Eye Suffolk
Sydney Marks 19 boarder

Hopefully the right Mary

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Births Mar 1866 (>99%)
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De Gruchy Mary A M M Stepney 1c 492

Just a thought but I wonder whether this was a previous marriage and her husband's death??

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Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
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>>Bradish Alfred George Islington 1b 246
>>De Gruchy Mary Ann Islington 1b 246
Richens Ernest Harry Islington 1b 246
Wood Eliza Islington 1b 246


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Deaths Jun 1899 (>99%)
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Bradish Alfred George 35 W. Ham 4a 125

yes she should indeed be somewhere in 1881 cencus, perhaps her surname has a letter spelt wrong will try this ken

If born in 1867 she is just about old enough to have been married by the 1881 census.

thankyou all for reply , i do not have marriage certificate of mary and charles,but i kept on coming up with the one called mary e bradish or another mary bradish in 1857 london ,yes that is the family in 1901 cencus .ken

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Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Bradish Mary Ann M M Marylebone 1a 1271
Howard Lillie Marylebone 1a 1271
Jones Charles John Marylebone 1a 1271
Toogood Henry Marylebone 1a 1271

I have found a Mary Ellen Born 1868 Q4 Hampstead 1a page 590

1901 just for info

Name: Mary A M Jones
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles J
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
George Beilly 53 Lodger
Horace Doll 18 Boarder
Amy C Jones 8 Nottinghill
Annie R Jones 10 Nottinghill
Charles J Jones 43 Lyndhurst, Hampshire
Ethel J Jones 13 Nottinghill
Mary A M Jones 34
Thomas C Jones 16 Nottinghill
Alice Palmer 23 Lodger



Do you have the marriage cert?

would some kind person help me sort out the parents of mary ann m m bradish born about 1867 stepney london.in 1901 cen she is called mary a m jones age 34yrs living with husband charles at 24,ordanance rd,st johns wood terrace,st marylebone district.would like to find her if possible in 1871,1881, or 1891 cencus, have the initials changed in her middle names . any ideas ken