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Heres another Richard with Father Richard...this time in 1891.....


Richard Nettleton
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Mother's Name: Hellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington

Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington South
ED, institution, or vessel: 10a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Nettleton 23
Hellen Nettleton 66
Lillie Nettleton 20
Richard Nettleton 58
Richard Nettleton 26
William Nettleton 16

Richard snr. is a moulder
Richard jnr. is a florist

Think this is the same family that I found in 1881, just not very well transcribed......they`re also found in 1871.
Nicky

But is he known as Richard, Henry or ...........????


Nettleton doesn't seem to turn up on the 1901 Census



sylvia

Apologies to Flo...... I presumed the one off the coast of Spain.....didn`t realise there was a place with the same name in Lincolnshire....sorry Flo.... Isn`t Gibraltar off Spain an Army Base?......Shirley mentioned in her posting about Richard and his father being in the Military.,......so there could be a connection.



Nicky.

for reference


Richard Henry Nettleton's birth

Births Sep 1895 (>99%)

Nettleton Richard Henry Haverfordwest 11a 1200



sylvia

If you multimap Gibraltar, Lincolnshire it's near Burgh Le Marsh, Lincs but not even a hamlet. I think it's doubtful that is what is meant. The Rock off the coast of Spain is more likely.

Ozi.

Flo..... Gibraltar is off the coast of Spain....




Nicky

Ozibird..... I think Shirley thinks the 1896 Richard born Gibralter is the son she has the birth registry for {a year after the marriage}..... but the mother appears to be Agnes, and Richard married a Catherine Ellen....didn`t he?.....very confusing, glad your puzzled as well..... thought it was just me...lol

Nicky

This is the only Richard Nettleton on the 1881 census born after 1850 with a father of the same name.



Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Richard NETTLETON Head M Male 49 Dublin Carver And Gilder
Ellen NETTLETON Wife M Female 30 Dublin ?
Susan NETTLETON Dau U Female 20 London, London, Middlesex, England Machine Minber ?
Richard NETTLETON Son U Male 17 London, London, Middlesex, England Mantle Cutter
Mary Jane NETTLETON Dau U Female 16 London, London, Middlesex, England Warehouse Assistant
Ellen NETTLETON Dau Female 14 London, London, Middlesex, England Housemaid
Lizzie NETTLETON Dau Female 10 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
William NETTLETON Son Male 7 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Thomas HINDE Lodger U Male 20 Lincoln, England Engineer (E&M)
James BROAD Lodger U Male 40 London, London, Middlesex, England Carpenter


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Source Information:
Dwelling 21 Warren St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341076
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0353 / 107
Page Number 20



Nicky

Births Mar 1876
AXFORD Catherine Ellen Haverfordwest 11a 967

Are you saying that the census family you found is related to your Nettletons? I'm not sure where they come in.

Ozi.

Is this the marriage that you have the certificate for:-

Name: Richard James Nettleton
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Haverfordwest
County: Dyfed, Pembrokeshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 1582

If so, it says that the bride's name is Catherine Ellen Axford and not Lewis.

Kath. x

I have been reading back through your post.......... how do you come up with birth year of 1872 if you don`t have the birth cert or any details?.....Place of birth isn`t on a marriage cert...only residence at the time of marriage. Where he was living at time of marriage could be a completely different place to where he was born . Iv`e had a quick look on Ancestry census and can find no one who matches your details with a father of the same name, most of the Richard Nettertons seem to have been born in Yorkshire. I see there are 2 marriages for Richard Netterton on freeBMD in 1895 in Wales, are you sure you have the correct certificate ? Please post all the info you have on this man and his family and hopefully we can help you with your search.

Apologies...... getting Pontypridd mixed up with Pontefract....must be past my bed time.....so only 1 Richard Netterton marriage in Wales in 1895. Found a Richard Netterton born 1876 Pontefract on 1881 census....fathers name John.



Nicky

Although bmds started in September quarter 1837, it was not COMPULSORY to register a birth until about 1875.

Before 1875, the birth was supposed to be registered, but it depended on whether there was a registrar in the community, whether the registrar came to visit the home (that was supposed to happen at one time), whether the mother had to visit the registrar, etc etc etc.


Sooooooooooo ......... there are many babies that didn't get registered.


This could be the reason why you can't find him.


You might have to go looking at parish records to see if you can find a record of his baptism.





sylvia

Do you have him on any census? if so could you please post the details.


Nicky

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I BET AGNES IS THE MUM THOUGH IT DOESNT STATE IT ON THE CENSUS ON ancestry just says visitor

i also so foudn this Richard Nettleton
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Gibraltar

Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Ordsall in Salford St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Arthur 21
Emily Arthur 23
Florence Arthur 19
Mary Arthur 58
Thomas Arthur 31
Agnes Nettleton 25
Catherine Nettleton 2
Richard Nettleton 5
Elizabeth Spellman 22
John Spellman 30
Joseph Spellman 26

my uncle trevor said we had rellies in gibraltar cud they have just put he was born in gibraltar but have been born in milford i got his birth record off free bmd just strange the litle girl aged 2 is catherine

help please i have tried and tried on ANCESTRY, FREE BMD and everywere else your my only hope i bin looking on and orf for two years, for RICHARD JAMES NETTLETON born 1872 he married CATHERINE ELLEN LEWIS in 1895 reg office haverfordwest married at st catherines church milford haven pembrokeshire on the wedding cert his dad is also richard james nettleton the one am looking fvor says he was from milford but i think he was just based there he was a royal engineer as was his dad cud someone please trace the man or i will have to go see a medium :-O
oh i got the birth of their son richard henry nettleton
ty shirl