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Hi I'm looking for the marriage of Frederick (Poss without middle E). to Florence Kate Walters and Eveline Violet Walters. He was born in Plymouth in 1907 to William Henry Trout and Sarata Mary Ann Milford. I have searched from 1925 to 1932 and I know Fred and Florence had a daughter in March 1932 the birth certificate shows Florence being married to Fred. Address was Julian Street Plymouth. Florence and Fred had one other daughter date not known. Fred then married Eveline (Florence's sister) and had 1 son and 1 daughter. Eveline known as Vi brought up the children as her own.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Denise

Frederick J M Trout
Married
Walters
Oct-Nov-Dec 1933
Plymouth
Vol 5b
Page 640

Yvonne

Sorry that marriage was Eveline

Yvonne

Maybe Frederick & Florence never married

This might be the birth of Florence.
We should be able to find her in 1901....it would seem that her sister was born later....from freebmd

Births Sep 1895
Walters Florence Kate ...Stoke D. 5b 292


Gwyn

Gwyn

Yes your correct Eveline was born in May 1902 so missed the census. Parents were Jonathan Alfred Walters and Hannah Maria Radford.

I`ve checked marriages from 1915-1925 and can`t find a marriage for Frederick & Florence

Yvonne

May be they never made it up the aisle. Will speak to my Dad see if he can shed any light on the matter.

Thanks for looking.

Denise

Hi All

Just spoke to my Dad, seems like Florence's first daughter had the sir name of Welch or similar. With connections to St Agnes in Cornwall. Maybe she was divorced when she married Fred.

Denise

Denise
I still didn`t find another marriage for a Frederick J M Trout

Yvonne

maybe she only lived with Frederick cos she was still married to Mr Welch.

Also i think was still not legal to marry your dead wife's sister (altho some did still did it)

1901 census

Name: Florence Walters
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Devonport St John
Ecclesiastical parish: Devonport St Aubyn
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Devonport
Sub-registration district: St Aubyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Walters 1
Ernest Walters 12
Florence Walters 5
Hannah Walters 38
Jessie Walters 17
Jonathan Walters 46
Lily Walters 10


Yvonne

Florence K Walters
married
Wilson Welch
Oct-Nov-Dec 1917
Devonport
Vol 5b
Page 772

Yvonne

this could be the birth of the first child
Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
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WELCH Doris R I Walters Devonport 5b 480

Looks like they never married

death Sept qtr 1933

Florence K Welch age 38 Plymouth 5b 311

Bet Fred is a batchelor on the marriage cert to Eveline

nudged for Denise

nudged again

That's funny as i said that at 11 ish this morning

Shirley

Will get certificate for Eveline and Fred. Thanks everybody for all your help. Seems you cant always rely on people telling the truth on Birth Certs.

Denise