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Thanks potty- looks good how did you do that? ive spent hours searching ancestry.

Is this your mother's birth - does the C stand for Caldwell?
Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
Barr Alice A C Medway 2a 758

What is the mother's maiden name?

Could the B in this birth stand for Barr?

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
Hendry Frederick Frank B Sculcoates 9d 186

Recently i decided to get my mothers birth cert which when recived things wernt quite what i expected, ie all her life she claimed to be alice a barr.b1911 medway ,but it turns out that she was in fact alice a caldwell. so i then sent for her fathers wedding cert and got yet another shock. Her father was frederick frank caldwell b1883 scullcoats hull.he according to my mother was illigitimate,and in early life went by his mothers name caldwell, but im finding him difficult to track down for a birth cert, on his wedding cert it has his father william caldwell,but we have only ever known his step dad albert barr.and so now thers another prob if william is dad and mother is agnes caldwell is all this name changing because they were related in some way? As in 1891 and 1901 ive found him as frank barr.my mums bith cert he is frank barr.but on wedding cert he is Frank caldwell. later in life he becomes frank caldwell-bar and his kids all have different surnames like mums older brothers are barr,mums a caldwell, and the rest are caldwell-barr all medway kent. but try all these different combinations i still cant find his birth? can anyone help? cheers Dave