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I need some help trying to go back a bit further with my Potter tree.

Joseph Knowles Potter (b1841) married Mary Barrow (b1845) in London (I think). They had 3 sons that I know of (although no detail on 2 of them) - Thomas (b1871), Henry (b 1875) and Alfred (b1872).

Alfred married Emma Cooper (b1872) in London. they had at least 14 children as follows:
Emma Annie - married Alex Dyson (my grandparents)
Thomas Louis - married Rhoda Degan
Esther Elizabeth - married James Thompson
William Henry - married Doris Kirby
Ruth Adele (Tigs) - married Tom Richards
Violet Kathleen - married Frank Collins
Leslie Knowles - married Eva (I think) ?
Francis Alexander (Frank) - married Florence ?
Joseph Alfred - never married
Reginald Leonard - married Jessie Fortens
Lydia Louise - married Eric Bellows
Alice Ann - died at birth
Jessie Amelia - died as an infant
Percival Leonard - died as a teenager.

If anyone can help go back further, or indeed help with descendants of the children I have listed, I would be gratefull.

Okay, for reference, this looks like the family


1881 England Census
about Joseph Potter
Name: Joseph Potter
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Manley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Manley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: Simons Hill
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Stone Fitter (Quarrier) ((Ag Lab))

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Potter 11
Henry Potter 5
Joseph Potter 40
Mary Potter 36
Thomas Potter 10

1871 England Census
about Joseph Potter
Name: Joseph Potter
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Manley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Manley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Aron Page 19
Ellen Page 15
George Page 21
Henry Page 61
Mary Page 59
Thomas Page 31
Alfred Potter 1
Joseph Potter 27
Mary Potter 23
Thomas Potter 3 months

1851 England Census
about Joseph Potter
Name: Joseph Potter
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Manley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Manley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Budworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Potter 42
Charlotte Potter 2
Ellen Potter 5
Jane Potter 12
Joseph Potter 43
Joseph Potter 7
Thomas Potter 14

Ummm, now I think I have the wrong family, because you say the mother's maiden name was Barrow, whereas this one's maiden name is Page.

Joseph Potter married a Mary Barrow in Leigh in 1862.

HI DOES ANYONE HAVE AN ELENORA POTTER ON THEIR TREE WHO MARRIED AN ERNEST GILLHAM???

Hi

Lewella, you had the right family. It was my error. The wifes name was Page. The family were certainly in Manley, Cheshire and working in the stonework/quarrying business.

Chris

Thomas Potter and Mary Page marriage registration

Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%)

PAGE Mary Runcorn 8a 255
Potter Joseph Runcorn 8a 255



If you buy this certificate from www.gro.gov.uk, you will find out the names of the two fathers.



sylvia

1891 Census

Name: Joseph Potter
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Manley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Alvanley
Ecclesiastical parish: Frodsham St Lawrence
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Potter 24 General Labourer
Harry Potter 14 General Labourer
Joseph Potter 50 General Labourer
Mary Potter 45
Thomas Potter 20 General Labourer


Address:- Manley


sylvia

Looks like Mary died, and Joseph remarried

1901 Census

Name: Joseph Potter
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Manley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Manley
Ecclesiastical parish: Frodsham St Lawrence and Manley
Town: Manley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Duncall 64 sister-in-law <<<<< Duncalf on image
Hannah Potter 58 b.ca 1843, Kingsley, Cheshire
Harry Potter 25 Ag Lab
Joseph Potter 59 Ag Lab

Address:- Manley



sylvia

?? Mary's death??

Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%)

Potter Mary 45 Runcorn 8a 159

- - - - -

Possible marriage registration??

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)

Lyon Hannah Runcorn 8a 356
Potter Joseph Runcorn 8a 356


???Hannah's first marriage?

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)

DUNCALF Hannah Runcorn 8a 293
LYON James Runcorn 8a 293



sylvia

1901 Census

Name: Thomas Potter
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Edith Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Manley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Thornton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Thornton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Fylde
Sub-registration district: Fleetwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Jane Potter 26
Joseph Potter 1
Sarah Elizabeth Potter 3
Thomas Potter 30

sylvia

Sylvia,

WOW!!

Thank you so much for that info, especially the second marriage for JK Potter. The family info for Tom is appreciated as well.

It will take me a little while to assimilate it into my tree, but it should give me a direction to follow as being in Australia it is a bit difficult to 'just pop down to the local library' and call up this sort of thing in the parish registers etc.

Chris Lee
Brisbane, Australia

Chris

I have a similar distance problem with researching my family, as I live in Vancouver, Canada!!


we were in Brisbane about 18 months .......... we have friends who live at Moggill.


Glad I could be of help

sylvia

Sylvia,

Ah, the tyranny of distance. Makes life interesting at times.

Do you have any connection with the Potters mentioned above, or is the info something you just had at hand, or did you do a specific look-up for me?

Whichever it is, thank you so much.

By the way, Moggill is not very far from where I live (Red Hill, near the city).

Chris

Hi Chris

no, no connection with the Potters.

Just one of the things I do ....... I'm one of the many who spend time doing look-ups for other people on here. I think all of us who do this love the hunt, and trying to solve problems.

You're very welcome, I'm glad I could help you


sylvia

Maria

You should start your own thread with your request.

It is not a good idea to piggy back your request on to someone else's thread .... it is not likely to get much response.

sylvia