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1891 census PLEASE

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Allan

Allan Report 3 Mar 2008 09:34

I have a Evan Gerald James born 1890 more then likely Wales father Evan James occupation Collier mother no name.

I located a census index on Ancestry which matches the above
Evan G James
Born 1890 Pembrokeshire
Residence 1891 Pembrokeshire
Can some knid person please look the census up for me THANK YOU

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 3 Mar 2008 09:49

The Edwin G James on the 1901 was in Barry (where I was born) & his Dad's name was Edwin.

There are no mines in Barry, it was a docks town.

I'll have a hunt around & see if I can find yours

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 3 Mar 2008 10:06

Sorry I'm not getting what you have on the 1891. Also I can't find a birth for Edwin Gerald James 1891 anywhere!

What do you have? I assume it's a marriage cert

Allan

Allan Report 3 Mar 2008 10:09

It is my turn to be hanged I made a mistake..
Evan G James b 1893 more then likely Wales..father Evan James retired collier 1915

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 3 Mar 2008 10:17

Well you can cancel this one out, he's got the wrong Dad!

1891 Wales Census
about Evan G James
Name: Evan G James
Age: 6/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Allan

Allan Report 3 Mar 2008 10:20


Thanks Claire...It is a big ask to find someone with the surname James..I thought with his fathers name it would make the task easier..

Thelma

Thelma Report 3 Mar 2008 10:21

Let's start with the place of marriage

Evan G James 1915 Apr-May-Jun Hughes Cardiff (1837-1974) Glamorgan, Monmouthshire
Is this the one?

Allan

Allan Report 3 Mar 2008 10:25

Yes that is the marriage..
Elsie May Hughes age 19 married Evan Gerald James age 22 at Registry office Cardiff..both the above lived at 4 Cairns St Cardiff..Evan G James father is down as Evan James a retired Collier.

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 3 Mar 2008 10:27

A possible but he's a bit old, was his middle name definitely Gerald?


1901 Wales Census
about Evan James
Name: Evan James
Age in 1901: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Evan
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: MT Ash, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Llanwonno
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Mountain Ash
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Llanwonno
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Cathrine E James 9
Evan James 40
Evan James 12
Jane James 39
Lizzie Ann James 16
Margretta James 3
Ann Jane Thomas 16
Edward M Thomas 5
Richard D Thomas 13


ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 3 Mar 2008 10:35

There is also this one but too old if yours was born 1893, who by the way couldn't be on the 1891.

Father is a farmer though

1901 Wales Census
about Evan James
Name: Evan James
Age in 1901: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Evan
Gender: Male
Where born: Llangeinor, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Llangeinor
Ecclesiastical parish: Llangeinor
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Bridgend
Sub-registration district: Ogmore
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Blodwin James 1
David R James 20
Evan James 40
Evan James 10
Maggie James 16
Mary A James 18
William I James 14


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 5044; Folio: 78; Page: 1.

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 3 Mar 2008 10:36

This one looks more likely but as I can't find a birth for Evan Gerald James I'm wading through mud at the moment!

1901 Wales Census
about Evan James
Name: Evan James
Age in 1901: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Evan
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedwas, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Bedwas
Ecclesiastical parish: Fleur de Lis St David
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub-registration district: Mynyddislwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Davie James 10
Earnest James 6
Evan James 48
Evan James 8
Margaret James 47
Minnie James 13
William James 21

This was boom time for S Wales mining, lots of folk were moving into Glamorgan.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 3 Mar 2008 10:38

Here he is, father's occ coal hewer

1901 Wales Census
about Evan James
Name: Evan James
Age in 1901: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Evan
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedwas, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Bedwas
Ecclesiastical parish: Fleur de Lis St David
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub-registration district: Mynyddislwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Davie James 10
Earnest James 6
Evan James 48
Evan James 8
Margaret James 47
Minnie James 13
William James 21


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4969; Folio: 82; Page: 19.

Christine

Allan

Allan Report 3 Mar 2008 10:43

Hi Claire, It is a good possibility especially with the middle name Gerald..fathers christian name is the same..Llanwonno area..Glamorgan is familar with my family history. I have found on many of the certificates that ages have been wrongly given so this may be the case with Evan G James age.
Many Thanks for your time and effort.

Allan

Allan Report 3 Mar 2008 11:04

I have just waded through paper and found Elsie May James obit notice..it is hard to read but gives thanks to brothers in laws Ernest James of Cefn Hengoed ...William James of Maesycwmmer and David James of Cefn Hengoed..the census of Claire and Christine of Portugal has listed a David, Ernest and William which could be the siblings of Evan James

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 3 Mar 2008 11:04


Hi Allan,

It seems more likely that it is the last one that Claire and I found as his father's occupation is coal hewer, none of them have a middle name listed.

Christine

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 3 Mar 2008 11:06

We crossed posts Allan, Claire found that one also so it does seem correct.

Christine

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 3 Mar 2008 11:13

Same family in 1891

1891 Wales Census
about Evan James
Name: Evan James
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanddewi, Radnorshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Bedwas
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedwas
Town: Bedwas Upper
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: Mynyddyslwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David James 7/12
Evan James 38
Margaret James 37
Minnie James 3
William James 11


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4383; Folio 27; Page 6; GSU roll: 6099493.

Christine

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 3 Mar 2008 11:20

Allan if your still awake, are you able to work out when Elsie May was born from that bit of paper?

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 3 Mar 2008 11:24

1881

1881 Wales Census
about Evan James
Name: Evan James
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Llandisog, Radnorshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Bedwellty
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: 84 Vale Terrace
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Labourer Underground

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Tredegar
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Evan James 29
Margaret James 24
William John James 1


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5243; Folio: 117; Page: 33; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342262.

Christine

Allan

Allan Report 3 Mar 2008 11:25

Hi Claire, Elsie May Hughes was born Pontypridd 1896 to Emma Coleman and Edwin Hughes..I have full details of Elsie and her mother Emma Coleman..Elsie is listed in the 1901 census as Elsie May Hughes her mother is listed as Emma Lloyd (Emmas first marriage ) and staying with grandparent James and Catherine Coleman of Ystradyfodwg Glamorganshire.Emma was married three times
a..David Lloyd
2..Edwin Hughes
3. Robert William Evans
I must close but THANK YOU all for a good result after a bad beginning
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