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royston is in the boarder of cambridgeshire and herts

and he married in cambridgshire in 1890
Frederick William Ashman 1890 Apr-May-Jun

Nellie Morris 1890 Apr-May-Jun Cambridge (


Frederick William Ashman
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Cambridge (1837-1935)
County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 959 (click to see others on page)

right think I,ve found something!!

George died in 1874
Deaths Mar 1874

ASHMAN George 31 Royston 3a 204

and in 1875 Annie married Edwin Juffs

Marriages Dec 1875 (>99%)
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Ashman Annie Chesterton 3b 1169

Juffs Edwin Chesterton 3b 1169

here they are on the 1881 and all the children are called Juffs!!

Name: Edwin Juffs
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Yaxford, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: No 68 Ainsworth St.
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Solicitor's General Clerk

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub-registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert E. Juffs 5
Annie Juffs 32
Annie M. Juffs 3
Edwin Juffs 40
Frank C. Juffs 12
Frederick W. Juffs 15
Geo.King Juffs 13
Thomas F. Juffs 1


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1666; Folio: 62; Page: 17; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341398.


However on the 1891 George Juffs is now Ashman again
Name: Edwin Juffs
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Yoxford, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:42 Sturton Street

Occupation:Solicitors Clerk

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub-registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Geo K Ashman 23
Albert E Juffs 13
Annie Juffs 43
Beatrice A Juffs 6
Edwin Juffs 49
Percy R Juffs 2
Thos F Juffs 15


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1284; Folio 97; Page 3; GSU roll: 6096394.

was wondering if anyone would hold the actual census records for west ham out there or is that not poss cos could post that request only not sure if i should

Elaine

Hi shirley

I know its a complete mystery to me you normaly find one still look like it gonna stay a mystry thanks for looking

Elaine

Hey Joan

yeh could be but that particular one in harston i have checked on and he is also with his parents in 1871 so i know ive done the checking he deffinatly not mine but i agree all these census are mostly mistranscribed so he could be any one from any where never mind ill just keep going thanks for your help and bothering to look for me.

Elaine

none of the family seem to be showing on the 1881

hi Jim

thanks for 1901 so he did end up in west ham still carn't find him in 1881 looks like gonna be one of those family mysteries

thanks
elaine

Elaine,

The 1881 census may have been incorrect--depending upon who was giving the information to the census taker (they may have not known exactly where he was born and took a guess). This happened to me with my family over in Cumberland. Although they were all born in the Parish of Wetheral, some of them were incorrect in the later census and the place where they were farming at a young age was what was listed on the census--not Wetheral but it was them.

So, it's possible the one on the 1881 could be your Frederick although the place of birth was stated incorrectly. Just a thought!

Judith

yes you have the right one in 1891 i have him there thanks
elaine

joan i also have him in 1871 & 1891 with his parents then his wife nellie

he just disapeared we do think he ended up in west ham

1901
Fredk Ashman Nellie abt 1866 Thetfield, Hertfordshire, England Head West Ham, Essex
1891
Frederick W Ashman Nellie abt 1866 Royston, Hertfordshire, England Head St Andrew The Less, Cambridgeshire
1871
Frederick William Ashman George,
Annie abt 1865 Therfield, Hertfordshire, England Son Royston, Hertfordshire

here he is on the 1891!!

Name: Frederick W Ashman
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Nellie
Gender: Male
Where born: Royston, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub-registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick W Ashman 25
Nellie Ashman 19
Percy F Ashman 2/12


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1284; Folio 189; Page 23; GSU roll: 6096394.

Hi judith and joan

no the fredrick born harston also not mine not sure im ever gonna find him

Elaine

Is this the correct one in 1891?

1891 England Census
about Frederick W Ashman
Name: Frederick W Ashman
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Nellie
Gender: Male
Where born: Royston, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub-registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick W Ashman 25
Nellie Ashman 19
Percy F Ashman 2/12

Hi soph

No his name is Fredrick William Ashman

Elaine, I found this record but it's a different county?

1881 England Census
about Frederick Wm. Ashman
Name: Frederick Wm. Ashman
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Brother in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Harston, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: 2 Bay Terrace Tower Hamlets Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Warehouseman Porter

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Wm. Ashman 18
Eliza A. Cronk 28
John Cronk 23
John Wm. Cronk 2

according to the 1871 he was living in Royston but born Therfield Herts

Name: Frederick William Ashman
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Therfield, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Royston
Town: Royston
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Royston
Sub-registration district: Royston
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Ashman 23
Frank Willm Ashman 3
Frederick William Ashman 6
George Ashman 28
George Henry Ashman 4
Sarah Jane Bright 20



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1360; Folio: 95; Page: 12; GSU roll: 827000.

Hi nicola

Thanks but he not mine he was born in Herfordshire not Devon but thanks for looking
appriciate it

Elaine

Here is his birth?

Births Jun 1865

Ashman Frederick William Royston 3a 248

Nicki