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Hi Sylvia (in Canada)
Thanks for your reply I do have this info. & am really looking for the birth of John.
Being Australian and not familiar with London I'm not sure how they all fit together.
As you can imagine there are a lot of John Smiths (no middle name) on the BMD.
Would appreciate any advice or help
I did come across an entry for a Jeff Smith who was tracing John's brother William, but I have not got a reply to my emails.

Thanks,
Wanita (in Australia)

Thanks, Lewella
I have that info. Mainly trying to find a birth for John (my grandfather) He always told us his birthday was the same day as Kaiser Wilhelm II which was 27 Jan. However, as he fought the Germans he refused to celebrate on this day. His death certificate has 24 Jan pencilled on it. 1891 census has his age as 2 mo.
He told us he was born in Clapton, London.
1891 census says Finsbury -1901 says Hoxton.
Being Australian and not familiar with London I'm not sure how they all fit together.
As you can imagine there are a lot of John Smiths (no middle name) on the BMD.
Would appreciate any advice or help

Thanks,
Wanita

1891 Census

Name: John Smith
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Hessen, Germany

Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Smith 2 b.ca 1889, Finsbury
Alice Smith 22 b.ca 1869, Hessen, Germany, British Subject
John Smith 24 British Subject, Cabinet Maker
John Smith 2 mos b. 1891, Hocton
William Smith 3 b.ca 1888, Old Ford, London

Address:- 18 Grange Street, Hoxton Old Town, Shoreditch, Lodnon


It did say B S (= British Subject) in the last columno on the image, not Naturalized B S


sylvia

For reference:

1901 England Census
about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Finsbury, London, England

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Clapton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Central Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Smith 12
Alice Smith 32
Emmie Smith 8
John Smith 10
William Smith 13

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Albert E Withrington
Name: Albert E Withrington to Emmie A Smith
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's Surname: Smith
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 1171

I'm trying to trace John Smith born Jan 1890 or 1891 Finsbury, London
Parents Johann Schmidt & Katharina Elisabetha Frechenhauser
(anglicised to John Smith & Alice Franklin)
Brothers William & Albert, sister Emmie married ? Withrington
Wanita