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Margaret, that is fascinating, thank you soooo much. Maybe that's why I can't trace my father, maybe his mother wasn't married and gave birth elsewhere. Worth looking into as I have been trying for 5 years to find his birth cert. I have his brothers and his sisters but, not him, Curious isn't it.

Many, many thanks

Mary

Hopeful..By March 1819 Obadiah aged 16 had worked for 2 years without sick-leave in the Stockport cotton mill of T. Garside; he later worked in Winterbourne but was in the workhouse in Bristol by 1851 where he died 1869 and was jailed for a month in 1862 for begging in Bristol. Relatives of the same name died before him. Obadiah married Martha Woods and was one of at 3 children of Israel Maggs born while married before the death of his first wife.

Israel was born at Downing, which name was used both for the Downend in Mangotsfield and Downend in Horfield (several Maggs lived in Horfield but his mother was found recorded at Mangotsfield by someone working on the family tree). He was baptised and first married on the same day, and was from a family from Winterbourne, Gloucestershire which is close to both places. This family had included felt hat makers and publicans. When his wife died Israel went to the hatting town of Stockport, remarried and had 12 more children.

William born c1829 in Winterborune according to the census, was one of Obadiah & Martha's 9 children (one of 6 baptised together). He married Mary Ann Nelmes, settled in Clifton, Bristol and died aged 59. He had a daughter Alice (who married and had at least 7 children) and a son, William George; I have copies of the probable 1898 death cert. & HMS Temeraire (launched 1876) service record of the latter.

In records Winterbourne has been nis-transcribed as Waterhouse, Downing as drowning, Obadiah''s name is also spelled Obediah & Obidiah and Woods as Wood.

Peter Maggs

Hi Peter,
Many thanks for all the info.Peter I hope you don't mind but, I have sent you a personal message.

Regards

Mary

For anyone searching Winterbourne area, especially the Maggs family, google frenchay museum. There is tons of info incl baptisms, marriages, deaths, school records.
It is a fantastic website

Marcelle

Thanks Marcelle, didn't even know this site existed.

Regards

Mary