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Sorry I have lost the plot completely! she isnt alive

Just had a thought....Dorothy couldn't have been born in 1899 as she is still alive!! tht would make her 109 ha ha thats why she cant remember... no seriously I think I need to get her age off my friend

Thanks julia..I know Dorothy & Geroge's daughter was born in 1823 but that doesn't help does it....
Im stuck on my tree so trying to help others out

Thanks every one. I will email her and tell her to get marriage cert...will this give her mums mmn

Looks like George hasn't been transcribed yet.

Marriages Jun 1922
MITCHELL Agnes Walkley Abergavenny 11a 96
WALKLEY Ernest H Mitchell Abergavenny 11a 96
WILLIAMS Dorothy E Davies Abergavenny 11a 96


Your friend needs to get hold of this cert before you go any further.

Just going to email her to see if her mum had any brother or sisters. Be right back

Dorothy married a George Davies if that helps..George and Dorothy born in Monmouth

Thanks every one. She was a bit sketchy with Dorothy's birth and doesn't have any certs. The trouble is there are so many Williams that I can pin point which is there for the certs. I cant find a Sarah or Naomi

Your help is very much appreciated

I wondered about the Cordys, but it still doesn't solve the problem of whether this is Dorothy's family as she isn't on the 1901 census. Are you certain abt her date of birth?

I noticed in 1891 the Cordy's are living with them. I thought they may be relatives of Emma so searched for a marriage of Emma Cordy to John Williams which I found in March 1885 in Crickhowell. I checked them back in prev census and found a Mary Cordy who had a sister Emma and father Thomas. What do you think?? cant prove it though

Has your friend got Dorothy's birth or marriage cert?

There's no Dorothy though.

1891 Wales Census
about William Williams
Name: William Williams
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Llanover
Ecclesiastical parish: Llanover
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Abergavenny
Sub-registration district: Blaenavon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Cordy 15
Thomas Cordy 70
Arthur Williams 4
Emma Williams 24
John Williams 25
William Williams 5

1901 Wales Census
about William Williams
Name: William Williams
Age in 1901: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Blaenavon, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Abertillery
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Abertillery
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Household Members: Name Age
Archid Williams 1
Elizabeth Williams 8
Emma Williams 32
John Williams 33
Maud Williams 9
Wilfrid Williams 5
William Williams 15

Nobody was transported in the 1900s. It all stopped around the 1850s. However children were often sent out from institutions without their parents' consent, or even their knowledge.

What district did you find them in for the censuses?

Ozi.

There is a site called Black Sheep Ancestors which may help,
Good luck,
Liz

Hello I am trying to help a friend with her research and I am a little stuck
Here is what I have: dorothy elsie may williams born abt 1899 in Wales, she had a sister called margaret who might of been a bit younger than her, a brother william who we think was the oldest, a wilfred, a maud, an elizabeth, and an ethel, and an archie, but could be archid. Their mum was called emma abt 1869 and their dad was called john Williams abt 1868, william was about 15 in 1901, Dorothy also had a sister possibly called sarah and she was shipped over to austrailia when she was 14 for a petty theft, there was also another sister Naomi. I have traced the family in 1901 & 1891 but now stuck as there are hundreds of John Williams marrying an Emma in Wales. Does anyone know of any sites for people transported to Australia? I cant even confirm births of children for the certs as there are loads
Any help very much appreciated

Marcelle