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could anyone please help me find marrige death or parents of great grandparents they had my grandad john william walsh on 28th june 1917 he had 2 brothers frank thomas and 3 sisters sarah kate margaret any help would be greatfully recieved

What were your great-grandparents' names?? Any location?
Jan

need your grandad's first name and places to help you

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From Gavin
i believe they were called thomas walsh and mary ward area manchester

Hi Gavin.

You need to use the freebmd site to find birth, marriage and death records. Then using the information on there you can order certificates (it will become necessary to do this from time to time, there is no way round it).

www.freebmd.org.uk

If you only "believe" your great-grandparents had these names you really need the birth cert of one of their children to confirm this before you go any further, as Freewheel says.
Certs are obtained from the GRO (general records office) and cost £7.

Jan

Would this be your grandfather's birth do you think?

Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Walsh John W Ward Manchester 8d 294

Jan

any idea of the birth years of the other children? were they younger or older than your grandfather?

this looks a possible:
WALSH, Thomas Head Married M 34 1877 Hawker Manchester Lancs
WALSH, Mary Wife Married 16 years F 33 1878 House Wife Manchester Lancs
WALSH, Ellen Daughter Single F 16 1895 Packer General Warehouse Manchester Lancs
WALSH, Sarah Daughter F 9 1902 School Manchester Lancs
WALSH, John Thomas Son M 7 1904 School Manchester Lancs
WALSH, Margaret Daughter F 3 1908 Manchester Lancs
WALSH, Catherine Daughter F 1 (13 MONTHS) 1910 Manchester Lancs

Gavin.

We all start off thinking we can find our relatives without costing us any money. However we soon learn this is not a cheap hobby, but if we really want to find our past we had to buy certs working back form what was known.

Even close family ( mother )can get the information wrong as I have proved. Guessing is just wasting your time and that of others trying to help you because you could be following the wrong family. You need paper proof

thanks for your help everyone will get the birth certificate and try again

so whilst my sausage rolls are cooking I had an idea, find that 1911 family in 1901 and look what I found ...............

Name: Thomas Walsh
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Jude
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Walsh 24
Mary Walsh 22
Ellen Walsh 4
Sarah Ward 16
Francis Ward 12
Thomas Ward 10
Michael Fitzgerald 34
Sarah Jane Fitzgerald 31
Henry Fitzgerald 11
Waller Fitzgerald 9
Thomas Fitzgerald 7
Nelly Fitzgerald 2

the Ward children are described as Thomas' sister and brothers in law
the Fitzgerald lot are boarders

RESULT !!!!!

The only births on freebmds for Walsh with mother Ward

Francis Walsh 1911 sept qt Manchester mother Ward.
Mary Walsh 1914 mar qt Manchester mother Ward.
John W Walsh 1917 as already found

After 1925 reg district became Manchester North 1925-1939
Manchester South 1925-1939
Then back to Manchester from 1939
When and where are siblings Thomas, Sarah ,Kate, and Margaret born?

I still think Gavin should get his grandfathers birth cert or his marriage cert first to find his fathers name and occupation

thoroughly agree about certs - is only way to prove it

if it is your grandfather's parents then this is the marriage - ties in with birth of ellen and years married on 1911

Mary Ward 1895 Manchester (1837-1924) Lancashire
Thomas Welsh 1895 Manchester (1837-1924) Lancashire

from lancs bmd:
WELSH Thomas WARD Mary Manchester, Ancoats, St. James the Less Manchester 1/2/86

mary in 1891 (you still need to prove it's them, but if it is this is my xmas present to you - will save you looking them up!!)

Name: Mary Ward
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Less
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Ward 30
Sarah Ward 30
Mary Ward 12
Sarah Ward 6
Francis Ward 1

cagsie is working overtime thankyou so much will have to get to the record office to confirm thanks everyone merry xmas

to quinsgran
After 1925 reg district became Manchester North 1925-1939
Manchester South 1925-1939
Then back to Manchester from 1939
When and where are siblings Thomas, Sarah ,Kate, and Margaret born?
they where all born in manchester i really will have to get the certificate cagsie
is on the right path but never knew of ellen and john thomas i knew there was a thomas just seems strange to have 2 johns as my grandad was john wiiliam walsh d.o.b 28/6/1917 died june 2000

Gavin - do let us know what it says on your grandfather's birth cert when you get it