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does anyone have access to view the marriage certificate of my gt grandparents thomas Short born 1848 east london and Mary Ann Harris born 1850 i think islington area. I am trying to find out their parents names which should be on the certificate my ancestry credits have just run out. many thanks lynda

Have found a Mary Ann Short to Thomas Harris in 1880 but not the other way around

When do you think the marriage took place?

When would they have married.
The only marriage coming up is this one with similar names.

Name: Henry Short
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Harris
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 22 Apr 1894
Parish: Saint Mary At Lambeth
County: Middlesex
Borough: Lambeth

Its definately Thomas short and Mary ann harris they had a child Mary Ann Short born jan 10th 1883. in easyt london.I found it on ancestry and my credits had run out today so couldnt view.thanks a lot for trying.
lynda

no-one can see them, ancestry sub or not - you have to buy them to see what is on them

Can you post the census you have found them on as struggling to find an entry to match

1891 is this the family?

Name: Mary Short
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthews
Town: Bethnal Green
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green South
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Short 50
Mary Short 36
Emma Short 18
Mary Short 9
Eliza Short 11

Occupation of cabinet maker matches the baptism record

Name: Mary Ann Short
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 4 Mar 1883
Father's Name: Thomas Short
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Short
Parish: Saint James The Great, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Where have you got the maiden name of Mary from?

ONLY the names of their fathers will be on ANY marriage record

yes it was Bethnal green i just asked my sister and checked that mary Ann harris was correct name and they did have a daughter Emma so im sure that entry is the one .

Do you have the birth cert(s) of any of the children?

Otherwise, not sure how you know the MMN

So you dont have a birth cert for the mothers maiden name then?


Possible for
1881
Address:
2, Ramsey St, Bethnal Green

SHORT, Thomas Head Married M 48 1833 Furniture Dealer
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
SHORT, Catherine Wife Married F 26 1855 Furniture Dealer Wife
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
SHORT, Emma Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
SHORT, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
SHORT, Catherine Daughter Single F 3 1878
Bethnal Green
Middlesex

Was just looking at that 1881 census

Living in the same street as the 1891 census

I dont have the birth certificate but my sister has seen it and its def mary Ann harris they had 3 children Emma Mary Ann and Eliza.
thank you all so much for taking the time and trouble to help me.

First 1881 maybe wrong for Emma? there is this also..

HARRIS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 49 1832 Laundress
Pancras
Middlesex
NAPPER, Annie R Lodger Single F 20 1861 Of No Occupation
Holborn
Middlesex
MARTIN, Rosina Visitor Single F 5 1876
Pancras
Middlesex
SHORT, Emma Visitor Single F 8 1873 Scholar






Sorry about the big space,dont know what happened there!!

Have you tried to find a marriage on freebmd?