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Trevor

Trevor Report 23 Sep 2010 17:09

In the Scottish census of 1881 there is a family of Stevensons living with a family headed by what looks like Peter Buchanan aged 53 with wife named Agnes. The census shows her age as 5 which I know is not correct. They have 2 sons Peter aged 20 & William aged 15. The census shows a William Stevenson son-in-law aged 20, Janet Stevenson daughter aged 22 who I assume was Buchanan before marriage & a grandaughter Agnes Stevenson aged 9 months. All the above were born in & around Falkirk. I would have thought that I would be able to find info about them on the 1871 census but no luck on Scotlands People. Can anyone help? The confusion is that another Janet Stevenson with the same birth year appears in the1871 census, daughter of Alexander & Helen Henderie Stevenson also has a Agnes Stevenson aged 2 born illigitimately in the 1881 census.

Mark

Mark Report 23 Sep 2010 17:19

Ancestry remember to click Scotland though

Trevor

Trevor Report 23 Sep 2010 17:24

if you mean Ancestry .co.uk I am not a member

Flick

Flick Report 23 Sep 2010 17:27

For clarity - 1881 census info

Name: Peter Buchanan
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Agnes Buchanan
Gender: Male
Where born: Camelon, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 479/2
Registration district: Falkirk Landward
Civil parish: Falkirk Landward
County: Stirlingshire
Occupation: Blacksmith
ED: 13
Household schedule number: 5
Line: 13
Roll: cssct1881_135
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Buchanan 53
Agnes Buchanan 51
Peter Buchanan 20
William Buchanan 15
William Stevenson 20 b. Falkirk
Janet Stevenson 22
Agnes Stevenson 9 MO

All Buchanans born Camelon

Flick

Flick Report 23 Sep 2010 17:36

Who are you actually researching?

No point looking for people who are not related to you....................

Trevor

Trevor Report 23 Sep 2010 18:36

Trying to find any connection between William Stevenson & my family, in particular Robert Stevenson, born 03.05.1864 my Grandfather & Alexander Stevenson born c1837 my G.Grandfather. If there is was Janet Stevenson a Buchanan before marriage?

Flick

Flick Report 23 Sep 2010 20:30

Can't help you with such sparse info.

Obviously, the woman married to Wm in 1881 was a Buchanan, but what has that to do with connections to your relations?

Where were your relations born?

Who did they marry?

Have you found them on any censuses?

Kath

Kath Report 24 Sep 2010 11:35

Hi Trevor,
I'm not really sure what info you are actually seeking to be honest.

WILLIAM STEVENSON B. 1861-
MARRIED JANET BLAIR BUCHANAN 1880 FALKIRK.
JANET BLAIR BUCHANAN WAS BORN 1859 CAMELON STIRLINGSHIRE
FATHER: PETER BUCHANAN
MOTHER: AGNES HENDERSON

WILLIAM STEVENSON & JANET BLAIR BUCHANAN HAD AGNES STEVENSON B. 1880 FALKIRK.

The Janet Buchanan should be easier to search because of her middle name of BLAIR.

Regarding your William Stevenson b. 1861, I think his father was Francis Stevenson who married Ann Masterton 1855 Larbert Stirling

This is the family in 1891

Name: William Stevenson
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Janet Stevenson
Gender: Male
Where born: Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire
Registration Number: 479/2
Registration district: Falkirk Landward
Civil parish: Falkirk Landward
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Main St
Occupation: Iron Moulder
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 49
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_149
Household Members: Name Age
William Stevenson 30
Janet Stevenson 31
Francie's Stevenson 7
Annie Stevenson 1
Peter Buchanan 64
Agnes Buchanan 61


Kath

Trevor

Trevor Report 24 Sep 2010 16:38

Many thanks to Flick & Kath. This is quite complicated.
Scottish census 1871
Janet Stevenson b 30.01.1859, Larbert
Daughter of Alexander Stevenson, my G.Grandfather b c1837 ( unable to ascertain birthplace mainly due to the handwriting of the Scottish enumerators) & sister to my Grandfather Robert Stevenson b 03.05.1864, Falkirk
Scottish census 1881
Agnes Gibb Stevenson, b 19.01.1879, Falkirk, iligitimate daughter of Janet Stevenson & Grandaughter of my G.Grandfather
When researching for Janet of my family, in the 1881 census, could not find her, but found another Janet Stevenson ( nee Buchanan ) with the same birth year, married to William Stevenson, b c1861 living with the Buchanan family also with a daughter named Agnes Stevenson, aged 9 months, b 1880, Falkirk
During the early 1940's I was staying with my father's sister, Ada Stevenson in By-Plean, Bannockburn, Stirling, at that time married to Andrew Sneddon. Also living with them at that time was an auntie Agnes. I do not know whether she was a Stevenson or a Sneddon or her age at that time although she was quite old.
Ada Stevenson was b 4th Q 1905 in Manchester. Her mother died early the following year & Ada was sent up to Scotland to be brought up by relatives. i do not know which member of the family took on this responsibility as the Scottish 1911 census is not on-line yet, maybe it was Agnes!
What I am trying to establish is where the 2 Janets & 2 Agneses were between 1881 & 1901 & if the William Stevenson living with the Buchanan family is any relation to my family
Do you know the date & birthplace of Francis Stevenson?

Flick

Flick Report 24 Sep 2010 22:27

If Janet Stevenson was an unmarried mother, why would you think that she is the same woman as Janet Buchanan?

Who the heck is/was Francis Stevenson?



Trevor

Trevor Report 25 Sep 2010 09:23

Flick

I know very well that Janet Stevenson in my family & Janet Stevenson ( nee Buchanan ) are not the same person. The important part is their daughters Agnes, I think one of these brought up my relation Ada Stevenson born 4th Q 1905 in Manchester & brought up by relatives in Scotland after the death of her mother in 1906. I will not be able to research much further until the 1911 Scottish census is on-line
Francis Steveson was the father of William Stevenson & referred to info that Kath provided

Kath

Kath Report 25 Sep 2010 11:13

Good Morning Trevor,
I can't promise to find the information you seek but I will do my best.
I think we need to work backwards to find parents of parents etc as it is the only way we will be able to get anywhere.

This is your Robert b. 1864

ROBERT STEVENSON Pedigree
Male


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 03 MAY 1864 Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ALEXANDER STEVENSON Family
Mother: HELEN MUIRHEAD


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Be back shortly
Kath

Kath

Kath Report 25 Sep 2010 11:59

Trevor,
This is Alexander (Robert's father) with his family in 1871 but his wife is down as Helen Henderie.
On another site, next to the census is a note from a member stating that Alexanders wife was Muirhead not Henderie & could possibly be Helen Henderie Muirhead.

1871 Scotland Census 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Alexander Stevenson
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen Henderie Stevenson
Gender: Male
Where born: Falkirk, Stirlingshire
Registration Number: 479/2
Registration district: Falkirk Landward
Civil parish: Falkirk Landward
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Camelon
Occupation: Boatman
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 38
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1871_83
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Stevenson 34
Helen Henderie Stevenson 33
Janet Stevenson 11
Alexander Stevenson 10
Robert Stevenson 6
Helen Stevenson 3
Margaret Stevenson 1



This is Helen's birth taken from the IGI & scotlandspeople.
HELEN MUIRHEAD B/CH 24TH APRIL 1837 FALKIRK
FATHER:ROBERT
MOTHER: HELEN BELL


Or---- He may have re-married to a Helen Henderie


Kath

Kath

Kath Report 26 Sep 2010 08:20

Trevor,
Am I on the right track so far, in as much as the 2 Janet Stevenson's you refer to look like being one and the same person?
Have I totally lost it or are we now looking to find out if Robert b. 1864, Alexander (Robert's father) and Francis Stevenson are related?
If I have got mixed up will you please let me know.

Regards
Kath

Trevor

Trevor Report 28 Sep 2010 04:44

Hi Kath
The 2 Janet Stevenson's are not the same person, the one is the Janet Stevenson b30.01.1859, sister to Robert Stevenson shown in the1871 census with a child Agnes Gibb Stevenson age 2 shown in the 1881 census. The other Janet ( nee Buchanan ) is married to William Stevenson, also with a daughter Agnes, aged 9 months. I found her when I was trying to find the Janet who is Robert's sister who seems to have disappeared. I am not sure if William is related to my family or not. If he is it would be as a cousin and from different parentage.

What I have so far is 1861 census:-

Alexander Stevenson, Head, b c1837
Helen Henderie Stevenson, Wife, b c1838
Janet Stevenson, Daughter, b 30.01.1859
Alexander Stevenson, Son, b 19.11.1860
The above living at 61 somewhere
William Stevenson, Head, living on his own at 63 somewhere who I think is Alexander's father

Marriage certificate 24.12.1858 Camelon, Falkirk :-

Alexander Stevenson Aged 21, b c1837
Father William Stevenson, Mother Janet Stevenson ( nee Cherry ) deceased
Helen Henderie Muirhead Aged 21, b c1837
Father Robert Muirhead, Mother Helen Muirhead ( nee Bell )
Witnesses William Cherry & Thomas Muirhead

1851 census:-

William Stevenson, Head, b c1812
Janet Stevenson, Daughter, b c1831
Margaret Stevenson, Daughter, b c1836
Alexander Stevenson, Son, b c1838
Jane Stevenson, Daughter, b c1840
John Stevenson, Son, b c1842
Robert Stevenson, Son, b c1844
No sign of wife Janet Stevenson ( nee Cherry )
Don't know where the above lived at the time of the census or where they were all born

I have tried to access the 1841 census but no luck as I have run out of credits on Scotlands People. Can you please confirm the above & get any info on the 1841 census. Many thanks

Regards

Trevor

Flick

Flick Report 28 Sep 2010 09:44

1871 Scottish census has 691 people named Stevenson in Stirlingshire.............so it's a very common name, and unlikely that all of them are directly related to each other

Trevor

Trevor Report 28 Sep 2010 17:28

Flick, thanks for that, I am perfectly aware of that

Regards

Trevor