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eastender

eastender Report 11 Nov 2010 17:53

Trying to find death record for John Albert Spellman born 1887,resided in Islington,London.his wifes name is Cecilia.Also a death record for my aunt,her name is Elizabeth,same family,John A Spellmans daughter,she was born in 1907.I would appreciate any help you can give .regards Linda.

patchem

patchem Report 11 Nov 2010 17:54

When and where, approximately, do you think they died?
Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 11 Nov 2010 17:57

?
Albert J Spellman
Death Registration Month/Year: 1921
Age at death (estimated): 33
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1b
Page: 369

patchem

patchem Report 11 Nov 2010 18:00

The only Elizabeth Spellman born in 1907 showing on free bmd is this one:
Births Sep 1907
SPELLMAN Elizabeth S. Shields 10a 926
not Islington.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Nov 2010 18:34

John still alive in census 1911:


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SPELLMAN, John Head Married M 24 1887 Carman Contractor's London Islington VIEW
SPELLMAN, Cecilia Wife Married 3 years F 24 1887 VIEW
SPELLMAN, Lizzie Daughter Single F 2 1909 VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
903 Reference:
RG14PN903 RG78PN32 RD10 SD6 ED1 SN14

Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Islington South East Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Islington

Address:
8 Orchard Street Islington London N County:
London

EDIT. Two children born of the marriage, both still alive at time of census 1911.

Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2010 18:36

Could her name have been Alice & Elizabeth her middle name


Births Jun 1908 (>99%)
Spellman Alice Elizabeth Islington 1b 319
_________

If the above is her then there is this marriage

Marriages Sep 1934 (>99%)
Morris George W Spellman Islington 1b 497
Spellman Alice E Morris Islington 1b 497


Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Nov 2010 18:41

Marriage of John and Cecilia:

SPELLMAN John Islington 1b 630 OND 1907
TERRY Celia Miriam Islington 1b 630 OND 1907.

John still alive to c1919 to father these two children?:

Spellman Cecilia M Terry Islington 1b 568

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Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
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Spellman Albert J Terry Islington 1b 451

eastender

eastender Report 11 Nov 2010 18:42

Hi,Julie,she was married,but got a divorce,not sure when.regards Linda.

Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2010 18:48

But you need to find out if that birth i put is "your" Aunt Elizabeth

Do you know who she married, cos to search for her death we need to know what her surname was........

eastender

eastender Report 11 Nov 2010 18:51

Linda
I think she married a man called morris.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Nov 2010 18:53

Celia aka Cecilia died :

Name: Celia M Spellman
Death Registration Month/Year: 1958
Age at death (estimated): 73
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5c
Page: 817

but can't find John.

Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2010 18:53

So is the marriage & birth i put on your Aunt then ?

eastender

eastender Report 11 Nov 2010 18:54

also,the birth cert you gave me was correct.Linda

eastender

eastender Report 11 Nov 2010 18:56

Yes!

Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2010 18:57

Sorry just trying to get the correct info as you said her name was Elizabeth

eastender

eastender Report 11 Nov 2010 18:58

I thought you might think I was a bit short,tryed to delete.Sorry.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Nov 2010 19:00

Only John Spellman death in Islington I could find, but age is 30 yrs out and no middle initial. Age definitely 68 on the original index page.


Name: John Spellman
Death Registration Month/Year: 1925
Age at death (estimated): 68
Registration district: Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1b
Page: 388

Julie

Julie Report 11 Nov 2010 19:03

So it looks to be that they swap their names around....so i'd say the death that Patricia put for the Dad could be right then.

But to be honest to look for a death for Alice/Elizabeth will be like looking for a needle in a haystack

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 11 Nov 2010 19:06

He may have been baptised Albert John, if these are the right parents:

Name: Albert John Spellman
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1887
Baptism Date: 24 Apr 1887
Father's name: John Spellman
Mother's name: Elizabeth Spellman
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington

Born 1st April 1887. Address 50 Queensboro ST. Father a labourer.

Edit: Supports death Patricia found.

Edit, death for John Spellman I found might be Albert John's father?

Birth: Spellman Albert John Islington 1b 370 AMj 1887.

No birth for a John Albert or John Spellman in islington in 1887.

eastender

eastender Report 11 Nov 2010 19:22

That's fine ,thank you so much for your help,I will try another avenue.regards Linda.