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Hi researchers
i seem to be having difficulties tracing my grt grt grandmother on my paternal side as i can not find her in the census before 1901 i found her in the 1901 however her name was bryan as she was married to thomas bryan in 1898 i have thier marriage certificate as i throught this may help however i still can't find her please can anyone help her name is Matilda Smith born 1874 and accuring the 1901 census she was born in Yardley Worcestershire ..her father was George Richard Smith Labourer regards ste

YARDLEY, a parish in the district of Solihull

Unless she had a middle name it could be this one ....

Births Jun 1876
Smith Matilda Solihull 6d 579

No middle name on marriage entry.

Marriages Mar 1898 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bryan Thomas - Solihull 6d 709
SMITH Matilda - Solihull 6d 709

Thank you Michael
however she did not have a middle name once again thank you
regards ste

1911:
BRYAN, Thomas Head Married M 45 1866 Farm Labourer Stratfford Warwickshire
BRYAN, Matilda Wife Married 17 years F 37 1874 Yardly Worces
BRYAN, Hilda Daughter Single F 16 1895 General Servant Hay Mills Worces
BRYAN, Minnie Daughter Single F 14 1897 General Servant Domestic Hay Mills Worces
BRYAN, Winifred Daughter School F 12 1899 School Hay Mills Worces
BRYAN, Jessie Daughter School F 10 1901 School Hay Mills Worces
BRYAN, Edith Daughter F 8 1903 School Hay Mills Worces
BRYAN, Nellie Daughter F 6 1905 School Yardley Heath Worces
BRYAN, Thomas Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Yardley
BRYAN, Elise Daughter F 3 1908 Yardley
BRYAN, Gladys Daughter F 1 1910 Yardley
RG number: RG14 Piece: 18666 Reference: RG14PN18666 RG78PN1115 RD392 SD1 ED28 SN24 Registration District: Solihull Sub District: Solihull Enumeration District: 28 Parish: Yardley Address: 47 Spring Road Acocks Green County: Warwickshire
It definitely says married 17 years, and the children's ages would fit with that, so are you sure about your 1898 marriage certificate?

Hi Patricia
that is the correct 1911 census also i believe that accuring to my aunt hilda and minnie were born before they married also ...that mays them married in 1897 if it is 17 years from 1911 and i researching the marriage index for thoma bryan married to any matilda and the only one that came up is the 1898 as they were married it solihull maybe somewhere the years are missed up

Is it the correct father for Thomas on the marriage certificate?

Not having much luck trying to find Matilda Smith - was her father still alive on the marriage certificate?

Wondered if it were a late marriage as Hilda and Minnie's births not obvious under Bryan.

Maybe one of these is Minnie, born before parents marriage


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Births Dec 1896
Smith Minnie Maria Solihull 6d 598

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Births Sep 1897

Smith Minnie - W. Bromwich 6b 873

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Births Dec 1897

Smith Minnie - Worcester 6c 290

And Hilda likewise ???

Births Mar 1895 -------------------------------------------------------

Smith Hilda Solihull 6d 605

Hilda, Minnie and Winifred were all born in Hay Mills, which, with Yardley, all come under Solihull, I think.
So:
Births Dec 1896
Smith Minnie Maria Solihull 6d 598
Births Mar 1895
Smith Hilda Solihull 6d 605
Births Mar 1899
BRYAN Winifred Solihull 6d 652
Theory falls down with Jessie?

Hi Patricia
sorry for the late reply anyway
the father for thomas bryan is thomas bryan gardener and i managed to find all the info i needed on this as he was born in Wasperton which is a part of Stratford on Avon any i think your theory is correct on Minnie and Hilda ..but i think i have hit a stand still with Matilda ..the only real way to know the mother and poss were they were living at the time matilda was ...but again i it is guest as the matilda that fits is the one born solihull 1876 ref 6d 579 also thank you so much for your help
regards ste