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Of all the names to look for ! !
JOHN SMITH. b. Liverpool 1824
wife: Susannah Dobson b. Liverpool 1824.
suspect she died 1852
married: 1844 at Toxteth Park, Liverpool
children:
Margaret Smith b. abt 1845
William Smith b. abt 1847
father : Peter Smith. b.abt 1791 Lymm Cheshire
mother: Jane. b. abt 1801 Liverpool
Siblings:
Thomas. b. 1835
Elizabeth. b. 1837
This is a long shot but nothing ventured - nothing gained
Dave
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Not sure what you want to look for but this looks a good bet as Peter was not a usual name for that day
1841 England Census
about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation: View image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Smith 50 ..............Ship keeper
Jane Smith 40
John Smith 17
Thomas Smith 6
Elizabeth Smith 4
Phillip A Black 15
Ginny
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With the info you gave this has got to be as his children are here too,,
1851 England Census
about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Peter
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 1zz
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 68
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Smith 69 ....Ship keeper
Jane Smith 50
John Smith 26 ...married; Waterman
Thomas Smith 16
Elizabeth Smith 14
James Smith 9
Margaret Smith 6 Granddaughter to Peter/Jane
William Smith 4 Grandson to Peter/Jane
John Kelly 26
So it seems John's children lived with him
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have you got the marriage dates wrong as john and Susannah are both still living with parents in 1851
1851 England Census
about Susannah Smith
Name: Susannah Smith
[Susannah Dobson]
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 1tt
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Dobson 46
Susannah Smith 25
Margret Cooper 23
Thomas Dobson 18
Robert Dobson 15
John Dobson 12
Thomas Cooper 1
Ginny
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Nope, cant a find a marrige that matches. Someone else might be able to?
Hang on a minute...Susannah is called Smith and still with her family..why is there no marriage details and why isnt she with John...how odd???????
On the 51 census she is down as 'daughter' 'married'
ginny
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this ones a long shot but there is a William that matches the age. Could Margaret have left home and John is here with his second wife?
just a guess at this stage
1861 England Census
about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 34
Bridget Smith 34
William Smith 15
Henry Smith 10
Sarah Smith 8
James Smith 6
Charles Smith 3
Bridget Smith 9 Mo
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Thanks Ginny,
I am not sure why John was with his parents and his wife Susannah was with hers, maybe she was visiting.
I am having trouble locating Johns children with any certainty or some of his siblings.
I have located his mother ( she was in an Almshouse in 1871 ,How sad) and his brother Thomas in 1861 who was married and living with his mother and William Smith, aged 14 who is listed as a boarder.
Your 1861 re. John and Bridget is worth a good viewing.
I seem to have reached a blank in looking for other family members after 1861/71.
I was hoping that some one might have a connection to this line.
Again, thanks Ginny
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