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Information on Harold Simpkin from Nottingham

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Tracey

Tracey Report 27 Sep 2008 12:38

Hi
I'm trying to trace information about my great grandfathers family.

He was Harold Edward Simpkin D.O.B 1894

His parents where Albert Edward Simpkin & Annie Elizabeth nee Gilbert?

According to the 1901 census he had 3 brothers
Albert Leslie aged 9
Jospeh Claude aged 4
Clarence Edwin aged 0

In 1901 they were living in Basford, Nottingham.

If anybody has any information they can share, i would be truly greatful.

Thanks in advance Tracey

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 27 Sep 2008 12:57

1881 census
Joseph SIMPKIN Head M Male 40 Loughboro, Leicester, England Engine Driver
Maria SIMPKIN Wife M Female 37 Loughboro, Leicester, England
Harry SIMPKIN Son U Male 15 Birmingham, Warwick, England Clerk
Albert SIMPKIN Son Male 11 Nottingham, England Scholar
Joseph SIMPKIN Son Male 7 Nottingham, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling Brewhouse Yard No No
Census Place Lenton, Nottingham, England
Family History Library Film 1341797
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3341 / 22
Page Number 4

Staffs Col

Staffs Col Report 27 Sep 2008 13:00

Brewhouse Yard is still there and is now operated as a local history museum

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 27 Sep 2008 13:08

Possible marriage ...? ?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Joseph C Simpkin
Name: Joseph C Simpkin
Year of Registration: 1921
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's Surname: Harvey <<<<<<< Alice R M
District: Basford
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 613

??? Child..? ?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Gladys M Simpkin
Name: Gladys M Simpkin
Year of Registration: 1924
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Harvey <<<<<<<<<<
District: Basford
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 493

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 27 Sep 2008 13:09

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Albert L Simpkin
Name: Albert L Simpkin
Year of Registration: 1925
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Holte <<<< Alice.
District: Basford
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 588

Tracey

Tracey Report 27 Sep 2008 23:37

Thanks for all this information, i posted the message before going to work & never expected so much information so quickly.
I find it really interesting that Basford was part of Derbyshire & Nottinghamshire.

Thanks Tracey ;-)

Tracey

Tracey Report 28 Sep 2008 01:05

After researching the 1891 census, I've found
Albert Simpkin age 19 living with his Brother-In-Law, in Nottingham & his profession was listed as a carter, in the property lived 9 people including a number of in laws!
I'm wondering as one of the residents in the property was an Emma Simpkin widowed. I'm wondering if this was the catylist for him to change to a better profession. As he'd become a book keeper by the 1901 census.

Annie Gilbert age 20 a lace hand living with her parents, 2 brothers & 2 sisters in Nottingham.

Tracey

Alison

Alison Report 28 Sep 2008 12:49

Hi Tracey, don't know if this is any help, but I found it on the Parish Registers. This shows an Albert Edward Simpkin born in 1870. Could it be Harold's Dad Albert's birth. If the years look right, it also shows his Mum & Dad's name.

County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church St Nicholas
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 09 Oct 1870
Forename Albert Edward
Sex M
FatherForename Joseph
MotherForename Maria
FatherSurname SIMPKIN
MotherSurname
Abode Castle Row
FatherOccupation Stoker
Notes
FileNumber 4196

Good Luck.
Alison

Sharon

Sharon Report 28 Sep 2008 13:32

hi tracey
incase you havent got it the marriage date of albert edward simpkins to annie elizabeth gilbert 1 10 1891 lenton
regards sharon

Tracey

Tracey Report 28 Sep 2008 19:15

Hi
Thanks once again for all the help ;-)
Alison i think the information you've found relates to information Ann of Green Gables posted.
I'm 99% certain that my Albert Edward Simpkin was born in 1872. I'm basing this on the 1901 census which states his age as 29.
I'm currently trying to decipher the information on the 1891 census which lists him living in Radford with his brother-in-law, to see if i can gain any further information. It lists an Emma Simpkin, widowed, so am going to see if i can follow this lead.

Thanks for all the help Tracey

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 29 Sep 2008 04:35

? Your census of 1891 ?

1891 England Census about Albert Simpkin
Name: Albert Simpkin
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Radford, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Radford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: 46 St Pauls Street
Occupation: Carter

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: Nottingham North West
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ernest Hickman 1/12
Frances Hickman 27
William Hickman 27 ... Head... General Labourer
Albert Simpkin 19 <<<<<<<<<<
Edwin Simpkin 10 .. scholar
Elizabeth Simpkin 16 ... general servant
Emma Simpkin 54 ... Mother-in-law ... Lace. Hand
Frank Simpkin 14 ... scholar
John Simpkin 12 ... scholar

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 29 Sep 2008 04:45

Albert with family in 1881..

1881 England Census about Albert Simpkin
Name: Albert Simpkin
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Radford, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Radford
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: 77 Outgang Lane
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: Radford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Simpkin 9
Edwin Simpkin 1
Elizabeth Simpkin 7
Emma Simpkin 41
Frances Simpkin 14
Frank Simpkin 5
George Simpkin 20 ... Screw maker
John Simpkin 40 ... Night Soil labourer
John Simpkin 2

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 29 Sep 2008 04:49

1871 England Census about John Simpkin
Name: John Simpkin
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Radford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: labourer

Registration district: Radford
Sub registration district: Radford
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Simpkin 3 months
Emma Simpkin 33 ... Clapper
Frances Simpkin 2
George Simpkin 9
John Simpkin 30

Tracey

Tracey Report 1 Oct 2008 15:33

Hi Julie
Thanks for the 1881 census details.
Does it list George as being the son of John Simpkin?

Thanks Tracey

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 2 Oct 2008 04:06

Yes Tracey, all the children are John's children

George is in the 1871 census(above) only, 9yrs this time

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 2 Oct 2008 04:28

Thought that I may-as-well give you the lot, so here is John on earlier records

1861 England Census about John Simpkin
Name: John Simpkin
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Amma
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Radford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: York Street
Occupation: Ba?er

Registration district: Radford
Sub registration district: Lenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members:
Name Age
Amma Simpkin 22 ...Lace Worker
John Simpkin 20

Then there is these 2.
.. right year -wrong place
.. right place -wrong year
Name: John Simpkin
Birth: abt 1841 - Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England
Residence: 1851 - Witcham, Cambridgeshire, England
Parents Henery & Rebecca

Name: John Simpkin
Birth: abt 1835 - Nottinghamshire, England
Residence: 1851 - Nottingham, Nottingham St Mary, Nottinghamshire, England
Parents.. William & Hannah


You would need to buy the marriage certificate to find out who their fathers were to find them on earlier census records
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about John Simpkin
Name: John Simpkin
Year of Registration: 1860
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 252 .... Emma Simpson (only Emma on page)

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 2 Oct 2008 04:42

1851 England Census about Emma Simpson
Name: Emma Simpson
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Adam
Mother's Name: Millicent
Gender: Female
Where born: Matlock, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Lenton
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: Butt Houses
Occupation: ---

Registration district: Radford
Sub registration district: Lenton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Adam Simpson 46 ...farmers labourer
Ann Simpson 7
Eliza Simpson 4
Elizabeth Simpson 10
Emma Simpson 13
Francis Simpson 2
Frederick Simpson 15 ...Lace Maker
Jane Simpson 2
Millicent Simpson 44 ... Seamstress

Tracey

Tracey Report 3 Oct 2008 15:08

Hi Julie
thanks for all the info. ;-)
I used FreeBMD to try to find Birth records for the children mentioned on the census.

I came up with the following:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index:
First Name: Jane Brooks
Surname: Simpson
Also under this record is a Francis Brooks Simpson
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Radford
County: Nottinghamshire

Which would tally with the childrens names of Jane & Francis on the 1851 census.

Also i researched Paul & found the following:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index:
First Name: Paul Brookes
Surname: Simpson
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Radford
County: Nottinghamshire

I think the Brooks name maybe Millicents maiden name.
On the various census records, the birthplace for Millicent, has different place spellings.
But I believe she was born in the Parish of Wirksworth in Derbyshire in 1810.
If you track her ages on the census's they all give a different birth year tracking back. the range is 1805 - 1811.

In all i believe Adam & Millicent had 8 children.
What i find interesting if you look at the 1871 census showing John & Emma Simpkin living in Moores Yard, Radford. Above their record is a Millicent Simpson Widowed, with children Frances, Lydia & Paul.

I not sure if my tracking methods are correct as i'm new to Genealogy.

All your help has been much appreciated, hopefully i can help somebody else in the future.

Thanks Tracey