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Sidney & Lucy Penny nee Webber

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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 2 Oct 2009 15:28

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Caroline Milton
Name: Caroline Milton
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Crediton
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 739

Caroline Milton 1865 Crediton Devon

George Webber 1865 Crediton Devon


1871 England Census
about George Webber
Name: George Webber
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catharine
Gender: Male
Where born: Chulmleigh, Devon, England
Civil parish: Chittlehampton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: South Molton
Sub-registration district: South Molton
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
George Webber 25 Chumleigh Devon
Catharine Webber 30 Ashreighney Devon
Louisa Webber 10
William Webber 8
Susan Webber 3
Charles Webber 5 months
Eliza Milton 22 Visitor and sister I should think born Ashreigney

RG10; Piece: 2181; Folio: 132; Page: 9

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Oct 2009 18:43

SARAH SNELLING Pedigree
Female

Christening: 15 NOV 1789 Ewhurst, Surrey, England

Parents:
Father: JESSE SNELLING Family
Mother: SARAH
Extracted record.

Other children of Jesse Snelling and Sarah:-

1. CHARLOTTE SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 DEC 1791 Ewhurst, Surrey, England

2. MARY SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 AUG 1794 Ewhurst, Surrey, England

3. SARAH SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 15 NOV 1789 Ewhurst, Surrey, England

4. JAMES SNELLING - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 JAN 1797 Ewhurst, Surrey, England
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JESSE SNELLING Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH STEMP Family
Marriage: 11 DEC 1785 Ewhurst, Surrey, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Oct 2009 17:18

Parents of Esther Sarah Atfield.

Shadrach Atfield and Harriet Woods.

Shadrach on the 1841 census with parents.

1841 England Census
about Thadrack Atfield
Name: Thadrack Atfield
[Shadrack Atfield]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England

Civil parish: Albury
Hundred: Blackheath (Second Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:12 Little London, Albury, Surrey

Occupation: Ag Labourer

Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Albury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Atfield 50 1791
Sarah Atfield 50 1791
William Atfield 20
Thadrack Atfield 20
Esther Atfield 15
Sarah Atfield 12
Rachel Atfield 10


Shadrach Atfield
Birth: 4 Jun 1820 - Albury, Surrey, England
Death: Sep 1896 - Surrey, England
Spouse: Harriet Woods

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Oct 2009 10:46

N for today.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Aug 2009 15:17

Nudge for Debra. She has just renewed her membership and lost all her threads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 20 Aug 2009 11:45

Yesterdays work on George Webber.
This is his marriage to Esther

about George Webber
Name: George Webber
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Guildford
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 73

Esther Sarah Atfield 1882 Guildford Surrey

George Webber 1882 Guildford Surrey

1881 England Census
about George Webber
Name: George Webber
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Chulmleigh, Devon, England

Civil parish: West Clandon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: Clandon Street
Condition as to marriage: Widow

Occupation: Ag Labourer

Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Albury
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Webber 35
Charles Webber 10 1871 Chulmleigh, Devon
Frederick Webber 8 1873 Satterleigh, Devon
Lewa Webber 6 1875 Devon
Noah Webber 4
Ann Wilton 25 1856 Ashreigney, Devon Housekeeper
Or it may read Milton.

In 1891 they are at 7 Swaynes Cottages and George is a Coal Carman. Noah his son is is a Groom Domestic.


1891 England Census
about George Webber
Name: George Webber
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Chulmleigh, Devon, England

Civil parish: Merrow
Ecclesiastical parish: Merrow
Town: Merrow
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Guildford
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Webber 45
Esther Webber 32
Noah Webber 14 1877 Littleton, Surrey
Ernest J Webber 7 1884 West Clandon, Surrey
Albert J Webber 5
Harriet E Webber 3
Frank Webber 1
Esther S Webber 2/12

All others born the same places as in 1901 and George is now down as born Chumleigh as I said before.

Census before George is a Widower and his sister in law is his housekeeper an Ann Wilton unmarried

She seems to be down as Evelyn L Webber. Here is the 1901 census and I have filled in years of birth.

1901 England Census
about George Webber
Name: George Webber
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther S
Gender: Male
Where born: Chunleigh, Devon, England

Civil parish: Merrow
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Merrow
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:
Park Lane Cottages, Merrow, Guildford, Surrey


Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Guildford
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
George Webber 54
Esther S Webber 42 1859 West Clandon, Surrey
Albert J Webber 15 1886 Merrow, Surrey
Harriet E Webber 13 1888 Merrow, Surrey
Frank Webber 11 1890 Merrow, Surrey
Esther S Webber 10 1891 Merrow, Surrey
Jessie Webber 8 1893 Merrow, Surrey
Charlie Webber 6 1895 Merrow, Surrey
Harry Webber 4 1897 Burpham, Surrey
Evelyn L Webber 2 1899 West Clandon, Surrey

RG13; Piece: 602; Folio: 110; Page: 8

The father George is a Carter on Farm, Ag Horse, born Chumleigh Devon!!!! STrange that I have just been to Chumleigh to get my new chickens from the battery rescue lady there. They have transcribed it as Chunleigh.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 18 Aug 2009 10:32

This is the marriage of William and Amelia

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Penny
Name: William Penny
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Wilton
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 357

William Penny 1888 Wilton Wiltshire

Amelia Scammell 1888 Wilton Wiltshire

Here it is from IGI

William Penny Male

Parents:
Father: JAMES PENNY Family

Marriages:
Spouse: AMELIA SCAMMELL Family
Marriage: 04 APR 1888 Bower Chalk, Wiltshire, England

Husband Age at Marriage: 25
Wife Age at Marriage: 21

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.



Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Aug 2009 18:13

Debra I think this could be the wrong family I put up for you. I am going to look at the one that says Sidney Charles Penny. That other one is not the one I meant to look at!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your best bet is to order the cert for Sidney Charles marriage. The only problem is that both the Sidneys on the census have a father by the name of William!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the other one

1901 England Census
about Sydney Penny
Name: Sydney Penny
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Amelia
Gender: Male
Where born: Bowerchalke, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Broad Chalke
Ecclesiastical parish: Broad Chalke
Town: Broad Chalke
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wilton
Sub-registration district: Bishopstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
William Penny 39
Amelia Penny 33
Fred Penny 12
William Penny 10
Emily Penny 9
Amelia Penny 7
Sydney Penny 6
Henry Penny 5
Olive Penny 3
Ada Penny 2
Maud Penny 1



Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Aug 2009 12:51

Marriage of William Penny and Ellen

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Penny
Name: William Penny
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Alderbury
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 377


*****************Ellen Eliza Elkins 1893 Alderbury Wiltshire

William Laker 1893 Alderbury Wiltshire

**********William Penny 1893 Alderbury Wiltshire

Fanny Pitt 1893 Alderbury Wiltshire

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Aug 2009 12:36

Poss family


1901 England Census
about James Penny
Name: James Penny
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishopstone, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Clarendon
Ecclesiastical parish: Alderbury St Mary
Town: Clarendon
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street Address:Bangers Farm





Registration district: Salisbury
Sub-registration district: Alderbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
William Penny 36
Ellen Penny 35
John Penny 8
William Penny 7
Bertha Penny 6
Efuthel Penny 5
James Penny 3
Sidney Penny 2
Ellen Penny 3 months


1911 census transcription MY PRESENT TO YOU

PENNY, MR W MARRIED M 46 SHEPHERD ON FARM WILTS BROAD CHALK: WILTS

PENNY, MRS SINGLE 21 F 46 HANTS PORTSMOUTH

PENNY, JAMES SINGLE M 16 LABOURER ON FARM WILTS BISHOPSTONE

PENNY, SIDNEY SINGLE M 14 LABOURER ON FARM WILTS BISHOPSTONE

PENNY, ERNEST SINGLE M 7 SCHOOL WILTS MARTIN

PENNY, CHARLES SINGLE M 5 HANST DUNBRIDGE

PENNY, DOLLY SINGLE F 4 WILTS CLARINGTON


(RG14PN15452 RG78PN940 RD329 SD3 ED4 SN60)
Address NEW COTTAGE CASTLE HILL DOWN AMPNEY County Gloucestershire
District Cirencester Subdistrict Fairford
Enumeration District 4 Parish Down Ampney



This is the family on the 1901 census Mr W Penny is William and he is a Sheppard on the 1901.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Aug 2009 10:25

Received this this morning from Debra.

New message to Mel
Thank you for your message Mel, thats what i have got so far, So can I assume that I am related to the Sidney Charles Penny in the 1911 census? Where do i go to find out his parents names?
Can I also assume that the Sidney Charles Penny born 1897 was aged 4 at the time the census was taken but in his 5th year? (if that makes sense)

Mel I am sorry to bambard you with questions. I have not started a search from scratch before.

Many Thanks
With appreciation

From Debra

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Aug 2009 14:32

1911

HOUSEHOLD

PENNY SIDNEY CHARLES M 1896 15 Warminster Wiltshire

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 16 Aug 2009 14:24

There are two Sidney Penny's on the birth index both born Wilton Wilts.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sidney Penny
Name: Sidney Penny
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wilton
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 187

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sidney Charles Penny
Name: Sidney Charles Penny
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wilton
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 183

Have you looked for the families on the 1911??

Debra

Debra Report 16 Aug 2009 14:03

I have details of their BMD on both sides, what is confusing me is that on findmypast.com for 1901 it shows Sidney aged 6 which makes his year of birth 1895. but on 1901 online.com it shows a sidney aged 2 making his year of birth 1899.

Now there are either 2 Sidney Charles Penny's. OR The Sidney Charles Penny i'm related to has a different year of birth than the family was lead to believe.

How can 2 different sites for the same year ie 1901 show 2 different things.

I am so confused

Deb

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Aug 2009 21:54

Name: Sidney Charles Penny
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wilton
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 183

Name: Lucy Evelyn Webber
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Guildford
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 81

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Aug 2009 21:52

maybe

Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PENNY Sidney C Webber Salisbury 5a 421

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Aug 2009 21:51

Name: Sidney C Penny
Spouse Surname: Webber
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1922
Registration district: Salisbury
Registration county (inferred): Wiltshire
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 421
spouse Lucy E Webber

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Aug 2009 21:50

What sort of time scale are we talking here?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Aug 2009 21:49

their marriage cert should name their fathers and their occupations

Debra

Debra Report 14 Aug 2009 21:39

I am trying to trace my great grandparents named above plus their parents. My great grandfather was born in Wilton Wiltshire & my great grandmother was born in Guildford If anyone knows of these please get in touch with me.