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I am trying to find who George William Charles Shuttle is.

He was born at St Olave Southwark London in 1897.

On the 1901 and 1911 census he is living with William Pipkin (b1871 Hemel Hempstead) and his wife Lily Patey (b1869 Abingdon Oxfordshire) and is shown as William's nephew.

The sisters of William Pipkin who I haven't found husbands for are:

Jane Pipkin (1860) Emma (1874) Annie (1881) and Rose (1888) all born in Hemel Hempstead. I can't connect George Shuttle to any of them.

I don't know the family of Lily Patey.

Has aybody please got any ideas on how to find who our George Shuttle is?

Many thanks

Liz
Australia

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Name: George Shuttle
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Bermondsey, London, England

Civil parish: Hemel Hempstead
Ecclesiastical parish: Boxmoor St John
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hemel Hempstead
Sub-registration district: Hemel Hempstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
William Pipkin 30
Lily Pipkin 31
Joseph Pipkin 16
George Shuttle 3


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Name: George William C Shuttle
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901)
County: London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 284 (click to see others on page)

sadly without a birth cert there is no way of guessing

Thanks for the info.

I'm trying not to get a birth certificate as he's not in my direct line - just an interest.

I keep coming across "interesting" people!

Thanks again

Liz

Name: George William Charles Shuttle
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 15 Dec 1897
Father's Name: George Shuttle
Mother's Name: Ellen Shuttle
Parish: St Luke, Bermondsey
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

He could be a son of Lily's sister

EDIT : Lyndsey has confirmed it. Cheers !

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)

Patey Ellenor St Saviour 1d 204
SHUTTLE George St Saviour 1d 204

Births Dec 1897

Shuttle George William C - St. Olave 1d 284

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Jewhurst George Thomas St. Saviour 1d 204
Patey Ellenor St Saviour 1d 204
SHUTTLE George St Saviour 1d 204
Smith Harriet St. Saviour 1d 204

Many thanks for all the information on George. I feel I'm getting better at searching records but still miss a lot.

Now I'll have to see if I can find any information on WHY he was staying with his aunt and uncle- a death or too many children to look after as seemed to happen sometimes back then.

One mystery solved and opens the doors to others!!

Very many thanks again. I do appreciate your help and interest.

Best wishes

Liz

Name: Ellenor Patey
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Spouse Name: George Suttle
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Aug 1893
Parish: St Mary Magdalene
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Charles Patey deceased
Spouse Father Name: Charles Suttle

Ellen Patey OR Shuttle-Francis
Pedigree
Female
Family

Event(s):
Birth:
24 SEP 1870 St Helens, Abingdon, Berkshire, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: George Shuttle
Family
Marriage:
06 AUG 1893 St Mary Magdalen, Southwark, London, England

a remarriage so hubby must have died




Ellen Patey-Shuttle
Pedigree
Female
Family

Event(s):
Birth:
1870 , Berkshire, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: John William Francis
Family
Marriage:
About 1903 Whitechapel, London, England

Hi Lindsey

Thanks for the marriage record in the name of Suttle. They did seem to change the spelling of their names quite frequently - as I've found out with other relatives.

That should help me with tracing the family - if I can't find it in one name I can try the other.

Thanks again.

Liz

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901 England Census about Ellen Shuttle
Name: Ellen Shuttle
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Abingdon, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: St George The Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: Alpheton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Borough Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 297
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt David Clark 37
Annie Clark 28
Ellen Shuttle 30 married shirtmaker

The death of his father explains why George went to stay with his aunt and uncle.

Thanks for clearing that mystery up.

Best wishes

Liz

1881 England Census about Lily Patey
Name: Lily Patey
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jonathan
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Abingdon, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: St Helen
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address: West St Helens
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Abingdon
Sub-registration district: Abingdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jonathan Trinder 60 masons labourer
Hannah Trinder 43
Lily Patey 12
Nellie Patey 10 ....[ellen elenor]
Jessie Trinder 9 probably not hannahs son.

so theres not a marriage so far, but the girls may not have known their father

more spelling


1871 England Census about Tilley Patey
Name: Tilley Patey
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Abingdon, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Abingdon St Helen
Town: Abingdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Abingdon
Sub-registration district: Abingdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Patey 39 masons laborer >>deceased on her marriage cert
Hannah Patey 34
Alice Patey 6
>>>Tilley Patey 2
>>>Helen Patey 6 months
Martha Gerring 22 boarder
living near a Trinder family, small world.


Deaths Jun 1875 (>99%)
Patey Charles 43 Abingdon 2c 195

Thanks for the Census records. Poor Charles wasn't very old when he died and lots of small children to support.

Interesting to see the Trinder family in the census - I've found several of my closer relatives - several different families - living in the same street for decades. They didn't have to go far to find husbands and wives! I don't think people moved as much back then.

Thanks again

Liz