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Could anyone with Ancestry please look up WW1 Service Records please:

Have just found out that G'father was in Hampshire Regiment WW1. (as have photo and cap badge has been identified).
Born circa 1898. Sometimes known as William or Billy. Believe he joined around 1916-1918. Have little to go on to where he was born. Know is father was William Shaw. After War lived in W. London.

Hi,

having a look, could this be his medal card??

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Walter F Shaw
Name: Walter F Shaw
Regiment or Corps: Hampshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 11571



Dee x

could well be

Can you confirm please. Were his forenames really Walter Frederick as described in the title of your thread? The reason for the question being that if he was commonly known as William or Billy it would seem more appropriate that his given first name was William rather than Walter. I cannot see a birth registration of a Walter Frederick Shaw in England or Wales 1896~1899 but there are numerous William Frederick Shaw births recorded in the period.

You say that you know that his father's name was William. Did that information come from your grandfather's marriage certificate? If so what was his fathers occupation and did the father have a 2nd forename? If you do have the certificate where and when did the marriage take place and who were the witnesses as these might provide a link?

I can't see anything else, but remember that unfortunately alot of WW1 records were destroyed in the blitz..... so it could be that this is all that is left.

Are you wanting to trace his ancestry?


Dee x

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Jun 1902 (>99%)
Shaw Walter Frederick Dudley 6c 129

The Medal Rolls index card mentioned above says -

'Theatre of War first served - France
Date of entry - 19th December 1915


Not likely to be the 1902 birth in Dudley.

Up to now it has all been a bit confusing..

Have marriage cert in 1924. Walter Frederick Shaw to Frances Clifford in Chiswick. His father is stated as William Shaw. Winesses were Cifford family members

Have William's 2nd marriage cert which states his father as Walter Frederick Shaw (horse dealer)also. This marriage was also in Chiswick. Know that William was publican at Packhorse & Talbot, Chiswick High Rd at time of 2nd marriage in 1916.

Assume that Walter's mother died but do now know where they originate from.

The medical card sounds a positive. Is it something that can be viewed?

Thanks to all who have helped. Really appreciated

Bernie

Hi Bernie,

could you just re-read your last message and confirm the names again?

Dee x

So we have this marriage;

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
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Clifford Sophia Shaw Brentford 3a 405
Shaw William Clifford Brentford 3a 405


and this one;

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%)
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Clifford Frances D Shaw Brentford 3a 235
Shaw Walter F Clifford Brentford 3a 235


Oh crickey..... so did father William marry sophia and then Walter marry a Clifford relation?


Dee x

Said it was confusing!

Grandfather; Walter Frederick Shaw circa 1898 - 1962 (bus/motor driver)
Gt Grandfather William Shaw circa 1861 - 1944 (licenced Victualler)
Gt Gt Grandfather Walter Frederick Shaw - dates not known (horse dealer) dec'd as at 1916.

Regards

Bernie

Dee

Yes, thats also added to the confusion up to recently!!

Walters father William, married Frances mother, Sophia in 1916 before Walter and Frances married in 1924....

1911 census - a possibility -


***CLIFFORD, Sophia Head Widow F 43 1868 Portsmouth VIEW
CLIFFORD, Thomas Son Single M 19 1892 Brewery Loading Floor London Poplar VIEW
CLIFFORD, Mary Daughter Single F 15 1896 General Servant London Poplar VIEW
***CLIFFORD, Frances Daughter F 12 1899 School London Poplar VIEW
CLIFFORD, Winefred Daughter F 8 1903 School Middlesex Chiswick VIEW
CLIFFORD, Nellie Daughter F 5 1906 Middlesex Chiswick VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6932 Reference:
RG14PN6932 RG78PN344 RD128 SD5 ED5 SN238

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Chiswick Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Chiswick

Address:
4 Dorchester Grove Chiswick County:
Middlesex



(Sophia marries father and Frances marries son ??)

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1868 (>99%)
SHAW Walter Frederick Luton 3b 457
Births Jun 1874 (>99%)
SHAW Walter Frederick Dudley 6c 164
Births Jun 1902 (>99%)
Shaw Walter Frederick Dudley 6c 129
Births Sep 1905 (>99%)
Shaw Walter Frederick B Northampton 3b 56

Sorry folks,

Got to collect my daughter from school. Will pop back in when I'm back.


Dee x

Thank you all for the information.

Have 1911 Census, marriage and death details but no birth.

It's taken about 4 years to get this far so will keep trudging.

Thank you all once again

Bernie

Hi Bernie,

was just having another look.... nothing to report so far though.

What are the details on the 1911 census?

If you give the address I can look myself,


Dee x

1911 4 Dorchester Grove. This is the address for the family Cliffords. That both William and Walter married into. Not where they were living at the time.

Believe that Walter would have been in the first world was then. Not sure where his father Wiliam was - Think he moved into the pub in 1914 (as located from website - deadpubs) in Chiswick High Road. - wonder if there is anywhere that I can find who owned the pub and what records would have been made at that time - maybe thats an avenue???

The family still lived in Dorchester Grove in the early 1930s (my father was born there).