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Henry Walpole Gates b1813 d1892 was my g.g.g. grandfather and living with him was a Henry Scotland shown as his grandson, I have no further info on Henry ie, parents, place of birth, whether he married or had children, I think Henry was b 1864 can you help me.
Thanks

1871


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SCOTLAND, John She Head M 29 1842 Scotland VIEW
SCOTLAND, Eliza Wife F 30 1841 Middlesex VIEW
SCOTLAND, Henry Son M 7 1864 Surrey VIEW
SCOTLAND, Annie Daughter F 0 1871 Surrey VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
653 Folio:
46 Page:
37

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Waterloo Second Part Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
York Rd, Lambeth County:
London, Surrey

Hey Sue
That was quick, I was going to add that these are Henry's daughters but whose child is Henry Scotland.


Emily Noyes Gates 1837
Elizabeth Gates 1844
Emma Gates 1845
Fanny Gates 1850

Henry Scotland shown as Grandson

1901 England Census

Name: Henry S Scotland
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Florence E
Mother's Name: Eliza S
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil parish: South Wimbledon
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Surrey

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon

Henry S Scotland 37
Florence E Scotland 32
Elsie F Scotland 5
Eliza S Scotland 60
Catherine J Scotland 27
John S Scotland 23
Emma M Scotland 18

What happened to John and daughter Annie !

1891 England Census

Name: Henry S Scotland
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John S
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil parish: Newington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: London
County/Island: London

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth

John S Scotland 50
Eliza Scotland 50
Henry S Scotland 27
Amy E Scotland 20
Katharine J Scotland 17
John S Scotland 13
Amma M Scotland 8

So now I know Elizabeth Gates was Henry Scotlands Mother, Henry Married Forence and had child Elsie F Scotland and had these people living with him Eliza S Scotland 60
Catherine J Scotland 27
John S Scotland 23
Emma M Scotland 18

Eliza Scotland (mother) is widowed by 1901.
Jan

Possible:

Deaths Sep 1891 (>99%)
SCOTLAND John Shephard 49 St. Saviour 1d 68
Scotland John Shepherd 49 St. Saviour 1d 68

So Eliza 60 is his Mother and Catherine, John and Emma are siblings.

brummiejan and sue you have given me invaluable help, I am most grateful didn't know these persons existed.
Thanks again. x
Carol

1911. I think the possible death for his father is correct as:

SCOTLAND, Henry Shepherd Head Married
19 years M 47 1864 Tie Manufacturer Ladies And Gent Lambeth London VIEW
SCOTLAND, Florence Emily Wife F 42 1869 Stoke Newington London VIEW
SCOTLAND, Elsie Florence Daughter Single F 15 1896 Student Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3491 Reference:
RG14PN3491 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED29 SN498

Registration District:
Kingston Sub District:
Wimbledon Enumeration District:
29 Parish:
Wimbledon

Address:
178 South Park Road County:
Surrey

Looking at image Elsie was their only child.

Jan

Your reply 09.37 is correct by the way!

Any information re: Henry Walpole Gates b1813 would love to know who his parents were!

hi could this be him

Name: Walpole Henry Gates
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Jan 1813
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARY MAGDALENE,WOOLWICH,KENT,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 21 Dec 1812
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Gates
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anna
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05594-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 307734
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Thanks safc that is him.

Groom's Name: Henry Walpole Gates
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Noyes
Bride's Birth Date:
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Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 22 Nov 1836
Marriage Place: Plumstead, Kent, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02906-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1469482
Reference Number: 197
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973