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Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 00:14

Can anyone help, trying to find Sarah Chapman Ellis, she married Reuben Lucas 7/3/1917 in Lancaster Lancs. Reuben was killed in action some months later, and I cant find any records of what happened to her i.e. remarried or if she had any children? Very grateful for any info, also re. Reuben and his death (14/11/1917). Thank you in anticipation, Jan

jax

jax Report 13 Sep 2010 00:25

Name: Reuben Lucas
Birth Place: Lancaster
Death Date: 14 Nov 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Lancaster
Rank: Gunner
Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery
Number: 110156
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 13 Sep 2010 00:25

Could this be Sarah's Death index ?

Name: Sarah C Lucas
Death Registration Month/Year: 1961
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Lancaster
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10c
Page: 788

Abby

Abby Report 13 Sep 2010 00:28

Casualty Details
Name: LUCAS
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 2nd/1st (Berks) Bty. 158th Bde.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 14/11/1917
Service No: 110156
Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Lucas of Scotforth, Lancaster; husband of Sarah C. Lucas, of Brunton House, Lancaster.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 2.
Cemetery: DOCHY FARM NEW BRITISH CEMETERY

jax

jax Report 13 Sep 2010 00:29

Name: Reuben Lucas
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Lancaster
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 786 (click to see others on page)

Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 00:32

Thank you, yes that would be the Rueben I am looking for.

Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 00:34

Thank you yes, looks as if she didnt remarry as I thought, or have children?

Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 00:38

Thank you, after weeks of searching and getting nowhere, much appreciated.

jax

jax Report 13 Sep 2010 00:47

Do you know when she was born? as she seems a fair bit older than Reuben

jax

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 13 Sep 2010 01:09

Hi Janice
Where did you get Sarah's middle name from ?
I can't find a Sarah Chapman Ellis birth.!!
Have you got the marriage cert ? If so how old was Sarah on the cert.

Best wishes
Barbara

Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 01:21

I dont have a marriage cert, got the record from BMD, maybe the chapman was added later on? thanks

Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 01:22

I have her date of birth as 1890, how much older than Reuben ? He was born in 1894

BarbaraFromYorkshire

BarbaraFromYorkshire Report 13 Sep 2010 01:34

Hi Janice

If you are certain that Sarah and Reuben are the right ones for you, then you really need the marriage cert--for names, ages, fathers names etc.

The Death index I found makes Sarah born c1887 so maybe not the right death index
Best Wishes
Barbara

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 13 Sep 2010 01:57

How do you know they married 7/3/1917 if you don't have the marriage certificate? And where did you get middle name? It's not on FreeBMD:

Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Ellis Sarah C Lucas Lancaster 8e 1009
Lucas Reuben Ellis Lancaster 8e 1009




Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 11:32

Got the marriage info from another GR member, and when I checked on BMD it seems to tally. another researcher seems to think Sarah was quite a bit older than Reuben, I wonder if she was married before?

jax

jax Report 13 Sep 2010 13:56

It seems to be a bit of guess work here. Where did the GR member get his/her infomation from?
As mentioned you really need to purchase the marriage cert to be sure

jax

Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 14:26

Okay thanks for the info, I will look into this a bit further and try again later. Other info I have is they were married at Trinity Lecture Hall, Queen Street, Lancaster on 7/3/1917, but I appreciate having the marriage cert will help.

jax

jax Report 13 Sep 2010 14:29

If you have those details does this person have the cert that they could share with you?

jax

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 13 Sep 2010 17:01

Those marriage details are on a tree on Ancestry and they say the source is the marriage certificate but they didn't post the actual certificate,

Janice

Janice Report 13 Sep 2010 21:59

Thanks I will look into that.