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Kirsty
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8 Aug 2010 13:19 |
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My great gran was called Lily Violet Sandford 1913-2007 Father: William Sandford 1878c Mother: Emma Finch c1882
My great gran had 11 siblings - 4 brothers, Albert, Sonny, Ernie and Bill. 6 Sisters, Rosemary, Nelly, Eva, Winnie, Bella and Alice
I believe they were from Lambeth in London. Any help will be much appreciated.
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8 Aug 2010 13:24 |
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You could try this site put in sandford and finch and you should get the births after 1911
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
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8 Aug 2010 13:26 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: SANDFORD, William Ernest Address: 23 White Hart Square S E
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SANDFORD, William Ernest Head Married M 33 1878 Printers Assistant Bermondsey VIEW SANDFORD, Emma Wife Married 13 years F 32 1879 London Lambeth VIEW SANDFORD JUNIOR, William Son M 12 1899 School London Lambeth VIEW SANDFORD, Ernest Son M 9 1902 London Lambeth VIEW SANDFORD, Alice Daughter F 7 1904 London Lambeth VIEW SANDFORD, Nellie Daughter F 6 1905 London Lambeth VIEW SANDFORD, Albert Son M 5 1906 London Lambeth VIEW SANDFORD, Winifred Daughter F 4 1907 London Lambeth VIEW SANDFORD, Isabella Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 London Lambeth VIEW
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PricklyHolly
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8 Aug 2010 13:29 |
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The 1911 census states.....9 children born, 7 living and 2 had died.
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8 Aug 2010 13:33 |
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not sure if they are all related could well be though
Births Jun 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford Lily V Finch Lambeth 1d 621
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1915 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford Alfred E Finch Lambeth 1d 524
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford Doris V Finch Lambeth 1d 5[7_][7_]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford May J Finch Lambeth 1d 407
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1919 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford Thomas Finch Lambeth 1d 634
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1921 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford Evelyn E Finch Lambeth 1d 563
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1923 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford Rosemary Finch Lambeth 1d 378
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Kirsty
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8 Aug 2010 13:38 |
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Thank you all so much that is brilliant I will get some much needed info from all of that. Is there any way of finding Emma's and Williams parents names?
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8 Aug 2010 13:39 |
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Deaths Dec 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford Doris V 0 Lambeth 1d 386
Deaths Dec 1919 (95%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sandford Thomas 0 Lambeth 1d 320
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PricklyHolly
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8 Aug 2010 13:53 |
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This is interesting ....
1901 England Census about William Sandford Name: William Sandford Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Bermondsey Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St James Kennington County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 267 Household Members: Name Age William Sandford 22 Emma Sandford 21 William Sandford 2 Caroline Applegate 54 And living next door.....
1901 England Census about William Sandford Name: William Sandford Age: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Bermondsey, London, England Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St James Kennington County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 266 Household Members: Name Age William Sandford 48 Alice Sandford 45 Isabella Sandford 16 Albert Sandford 14 Nellie Sandford 12 Walter Sandford 10 Sidney Sandford 8
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8 Aug 2010 13:53 |
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Name: William Sandford Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Alice Gender: Male Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England Civil parish: Bermondsey County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 43 Frean St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Sandford 28 Alice Sandford 25 Alice Sandford 8 William Sandford 3 View Original Record
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8 Aug 2010 13:55 |
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Name: William Sandford Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Spouse Name: Emma Finch Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 2 Dec 1900 Parish: St Paul, Lorrimore Square County: Middlesex Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Sandford Spouse Father Name: George Finch looks like they told fibs about how long they had been married
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MargaretM
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8 Aug 2010 13:56 |
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The marriage?
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Sandford Name: William Sandford Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Spouse Name: Emma Finch Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 2 Dec 1900 Parish: St Paul, Lorrimore Square County: Middlesex Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Sandford Spouse Father Name: George Finch
He was a printer, his father a timekeeper, her father a blacksmith. His address 44 Sutherland Square, hers 42 Sutherland Square. Witnesses were Leonard Sandford and Bella Sandford.
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PricklyHolly
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8 Aug 2010 13:58 |
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1891 England Census about William Sandford Name: William Sandford Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Alice A Gender: Male Where born: Bermondsey, London, England Civil parish: Rotherhithe Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Sandford 38 Alice A Sandford 35 William E Sandford 12 Leonard Sandford 9 Arthur Sandford 8 Isabella M Sandford 6 Albert Sandford 4 Nellie Sandford 2 Walter R Sandford 3 /12
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Kirsty
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8 Aug 2010 13:59 |
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From a previous contact I had with someone who had a William Ernest Sandford in their tree 1878 from Bermondsey they had his partner as Emma unknown with a son William so this seems a good match what do you think?
If this is correct he has Williams parents as William Sandford c1852 and mother Alice Schultz 1855, can you confirm this or is the below the correct parents for my side?
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MargaretM
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8 Aug 2010 14:04 |
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Could this be his birth?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about William Ernest Sandford Name: William Ernest Sandford Record Type: Baptism Date: 21 Jul 1878 Father's Name: William Sandford Mother's Name: Alice Ann Sandford Parish: St James, Bermondsey Borough: Southwark County: Middlesex Address 43 Frean St. Father was a lighterman.
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MargaretM
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8 Aug 2010 14:12 |
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Not a good idea to post your email, Kirsty. Just keep checking the thread.
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MargaretM
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8 Aug 2010 14:54 |
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Two other children of William & Alice Ann:
Name: Louisa Maude Sandford Record Type: Baptism Date: 13 Jun 1880 Father's Name: William Sandford Mother's Name: Alice Ann Sandford Parish: St James, Bermondsey Borough: Southwark County: Middlesex
Address 43 Frean St., father a warehouseman.
Name: Leonard Sandford Record Type: Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1881 Father's Name: William Sandford Mother's Name: Alice Ann Sandford Parish: St James, Bermondsey Borough: Southwark County: Middlesex
Address 43 Frean St., father a warehouseman.
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MargaretM
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8 Aug 2010 15:04 |
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Wondered why I couldn't find little Louisa Maude on the 1881 census. Evidently she died:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Louisa Maud Sandford Name: Louisa Maud Sandford Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Year of Registration: 1880 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 0 District: St Olave Southwark (1837-1901) County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 174
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Kirsty
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8 Aug 2010 15:05 |
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Thank you all so much all the info you have provided has matched up with a contact I have made.
He has this below --- seems she was married twice!
Alice Schultz First name: Alice Known as: Middle name: Ann Occupation: Surname: Schultz Date of birth: 14/09/1855 Year of birth: 1855 Date of baptism: Gender: Female Year of death: Date of death: Source of data: Place of birth: 2 Oak Place, Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Place of baptism: Place of death: Notes: Spouse name: Thomas McGuinness Place of marriage: Roman Catholic Church of St Mary & Joseph, Poplar, Date of marriage: 29 MAY 1871 Divorced: No Spouse name: William Sandford Place of marriage: St Mary Magdalene Church, Bermondsey, Surrey, Engl Date of marriage: 16 JAN 1882 Divorced: No
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PricklyHolly
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8 Aug 2010 15:09 |
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Ahhhhh!..........
Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
McGuinness Alice Ann St. Saviour 1d 115 SANDFORD William St. Saviour 1d 115
Alice had been married before....
Thomas McGuinness 1871 Poplar (To 1965) Greater London, London, Middlesex Vol 1c Page 1215
Alice Ann Schultz 1871 Poplar (To 1965) Greater London, London, Middlesex Vol 1c Page 1215
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MargaretM
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8 Aug 2010 15:10 |
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Was Alice Ann previously married to Thomas McGuinness?
Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ager Mary Poplar 1c 1215 Hearn Edward Poplar 1c 1215 McGuinness Thomas Poplar 1c 1215 Schultz Alice Ann Poplar 1c 1215
Then married William? But they didn't marry until 1882. (They were living together in 1881, weren't they?)
Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- McGuinness Alice Ann St. Saviour 1d 115 SANDFORD William St. Saviour 1d 115
Edit: Great minds think alike, Susan!
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