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Frustrated?!!! AARRGGHHHH

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~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~

~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~ Report 8 Sep 2007 21:19

Hi

Please can someone help me?

I am trying to find info on my grandad William Richardson from Workington, Cumberland. I have tried on the Ancestory site and drew a complete blank.

I think his birth is abt 1900-/+ in Nov.

He had 2 brothers Tom/Thomas (one died at about 18yrs old, drowned) and 4 sisters, Mary, Annie, Mable and Maggie who was deaf & dumb.

He married Sarah Borrowdale in 2nd quarter 1924, she was from Bridgefoot (got her info no problem).

He died around 1974/75.

My dad mentioned that he may have lived/born in church st, workington.

Thanks for any help in trying to resolve this for me.

Catherine

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 8 Sep 2007 21:43

Do you know where he lived when he died?

Yvonne

Penny

Penny Report 8 Sep 2007 21:45

His marriage cert will confirm his age, and his fathers name

Not sure what you mean by Drew a blank

William Richardson 1899 Apr-May-Jun Carlisle Cumbria, Cumberland


William Richardson 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland


William Richardson 1901 Oct-Nov-Dec Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland


William Richardson 1902 Jan-Feb-Mar Carlisle Cumbria, Cumberland


William Askew Richardson 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland


William Fisher Richardson 1902 Apr-May-Jun Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland


William Henerly Richardson 1901 Jul-Aug-Sep Penrith Cumbria, Cumberland


William J W Richardson 1902 Apr-May-Jun Wigton Cumbria, Cumberland


William John W Richardson 1902 Apr-May-Jun Wigton Cumbria, Cumberland


William Little Richardson 1902 Jul-Aug-Sep Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland


William Richards Richardson 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland


William Wainman Richardson 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Wigton Cumbria, Cumberland


William Watson Richardson 1898 Apr-May-Jun Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland

~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~

~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~ Report 9 Sep 2007 00:12

He lived at Northside, Workington, Cumbria and died around 1974/75 ish.

He would come under Cockermouth District for birth and death. But the funny thing is I can't even find his siblings on the 1901 census as he wasn't the eldest - Mary was. He was in his 70s when he died.

Kind regards
Catherine

Linda

Linda Report 9 Sep 2007 00:35

Hi Catherine, I could only find one Mabel Richardson born in Cockermouth between 1890 and 1910, maybe buying her birth certificate would help.

Name: Mabel Richardson
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Cockermouth
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 674 (click to see others on page)


Linda

Linda Report 9 Sep 2007 01:24

Found a Richardson family living at 58 Church St, Workington in 1901, the names don't match with your info, but thought I'd mention it in case there's a link somewhere!

Name: James Atkinson
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Male
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Workington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Workington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Workington
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Atkinson 47
James Atkinson 48
Elizabeth Richardson 21
John L Richardson 16
Nellie Richardson 15
Elizabeth White 75

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4885; Folio: 58; Page: 19.

James Atkinson is a general contractor (employer) married to Eleanor - the Richardson children are his stepchildren. Elizabeth White is his widowed sister-in-law (?), maybe it should be mother-in-law, born Isle of Man.

James

James Report 28 Sep 2007 14:57

I found a Mable and Thomas Richardson at Cleator Moor, Cumberland.

William was a very common name, so try searching for his sisters instead, much easier to track down, but my guess is that William was born after the 1901 census and that is why he's not showing up.

Jim

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 28 Sep 2007 15:49

So I did what everybody else did ... with the same results.

I also recommend getting that Mabel Richardson birth cert. That won't tell you for sure that she's yours, but you could find her parents in the 1901 census and see whether they look likely. (I was amazed at how many Mabels in Workington born 1891-1901 had elder sisters named Mary and/or sisters named Maggie, etc. ... 'cause I looked! Mabel was the most unusual name to search for, so that was the one I tried.)

This is the only Thomas Richardson death that looks like it might match:

Name: Thomas William Richardson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 20
District: Cockermouth
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 442

and this looks like that Thomas in the 1901:

Name: Thomas W Richardson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Workington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Workington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Workington
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 52

Household Members: Name Age
Laura Borrowdale 24
John Richardson 11
Joseph J Richardson 20
Mary Richardson 42
Mary A Richardson 13
Thomas Richardson 46
Thomas W Richardson 16

Matches also with the eldest sister being Mary.

That Mary Sr. seems a little old to be having children after 1901 though ... I wonder whether these could be yours, and Mary Sr. died and Thomas Sr. got a newer younger wife?

If your Richardsons had two sons Thomas, one having died at about 18, then one would think the other one wasn't born until after the first one died. If the one above is yours ... there were two Thomas Richardsons registered in Cockermouth in 1905, and one in 1907.

I wonder about a step-children situation too. Your Richardsons' father could have remarried and his step-children taken his surname, e.g.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 28 Sep 2007 16:06

Noticed this in the list of births reproduced in a post above:

William Watson Richardson 1898 Apr-May-Jun Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland

and this:

Name: Thomas Richardson
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Cockermouth
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 922

+ Ann Watson on same page.

That doesn't make them your people, but it probably makes that William the son of that couple. ;)


Another household in 1901 with children Mary and Thomas:

Emma Bell 18
Mary Isabel Guy 1 Mo
Margaret Richardson 36
Mary Richardson 7
Thomas Richardson 5
William Richardson 37


You do need that marriage cert for your William to get the parents' names!!

~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~

~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~ Report 2 Oct 2007 21:14

Thanks everyone

I got the marriage cert and he was born in 1905 and lived at 1 Wallace Lane, workington, he was 19 when he got married his dob is 8/10/1905. His father was also William Richardson(deseased)

Cheers
Catherine

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Oct 2007 21:55

Does 8/10/1905 = 8 October 1905?

(I hate the US system, 9/11 and all that, but it's more commonly used in Canada so I always have to check which is meant.)

If so, there was only one William Richardson registered in Cockermouth that quarter:

Name: William Richardson
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Cockermouth
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 637

If the father shown on that birth cert isn't William, you'll know he isn't yours. If he is William, well ...

But it would also give you the mother's name, so finding them in the 1901 might be possible, to confirm whether the couple in question had other children by the names you've got.

This is the only household I see in Workington in 1901 at the moment with a daughter Mary and father William:

Annie E Monkhouse Richardson 3
Doris Robeton Richardson 1
Mary Richardson 30
Mary Elizabeth Richardson 6
Monkhouse Richardson 9
William Richardson 40

and that doesn't look like them.

You'd think maybe that woman's birth surname was Monkhouse, but I don't see a Monkhouse-Richardson marriage.