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~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~
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8 Sep 2007 21:19 |
Hi
Please can someone help me?
I am trying to find info on my grandad William Richardson from Workington, Cumberland. I have tried on the Ancestory site and drew a complete blank.
I think his birth is abt 1900-/+ in Nov.
He had 2 brothers Tom/Thomas (one died at about 18yrs old, drowned) and 4 sisters, Mary, Annie, Mable and Maggie who was deaf & dumb.
He married Sarah Borrowdale in 2nd quarter 1924, she was from Bridgefoot (got her info no problem).
He died around 1974/75.
My dad mentioned that he may have lived/born in church st, workington.
Thanks for any help in trying to resolve this for me.
Catherine
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Yvonne
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8 Sep 2007 21:43 |
Do you know where he lived when he died?
Yvonne
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Penny
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8 Sep 2007 21:45 |
His marriage cert will confirm his age, and his fathers name
Not sure what you mean by Drew a blank
William Richardson 1899 Apr-May-Jun Carlisle Cumbria, Cumberland
William Richardson 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland
William Richardson 1901 Oct-Nov-Dec Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland
William Richardson 1902 Jan-Feb-Mar Carlisle Cumbria, Cumberland
William Askew Richardson 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland
William Fisher Richardson 1902 Apr-May-Jun Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland
William Henerly Richardson 1901 Jul-Aug-Sep Penrith Cumbria, Cumberland
William J W Richardson 1902 Apr-May-Jun Wigton Cumbria, Cumberland
William John W Richardson 1902 Apr-May-Jun Wigton Cumbria, Cumberland
William Little Richardson 1902 Jul-Aug-Sep Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland
William Richards Richardson 1900 Oct-Nov-Dec Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland
William Wainman Richardson 1900 Jul-Aug-Sep Wigton Cumbria, Cumberland
William Watson Richardson 1898 Apr-May-Jun Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland
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~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~
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9 Sep 2007 00:12 |
He lived at Northside, Workington, Cumbria and died around 1974/75 ish.
He would come under Cockermouth District for birth and death. But the funny thing is I can't even find his siblings on the 1901 census as he wasn't the eldest - Mary was. He was in his 70s when he died.
Kind regards Catherine
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Linda
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9 Sep 2007 00:35 |
Hi Catherine, I could only find one Mabel Richardson born in Cockermouth between 1890 and 1910, maybe buying her birth certificate would help.
Name: Mabel Richardson Year of Registration: 1902 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 674 (click to see others on page)
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Linda
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9 Sep 2007 01:24 |
Found a Richardson family living at 58 Church St, Workington in 1901, the names don't match with your info, but thought I'd mention it in case there's a link somewhere!
Name: James Atkinson Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eleanor Gender: Male Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Workington Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Workington County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Workington ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 105 Household Members: Name Age Eleanor Atkinson 47 James Atkinson 48 Elizabeth Richardson 21 John L Richardson 16 Nellie Richardson 15 Elizabeth White 75
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4885; Folio: 58; Page: 19.
James Atkinson is a general contractor (employer) married to Eleanor - the Richardson children are his stepchildren. Elizabeth White is his widowed sister-in-law (?), maybe it should be mother-in-law, born Isle of Man.
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James
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28 Sep 2007 14:57 |
I found a Mable and Thomas Richardson at Cleator Moor, Cumberland.
William was a very common name, so try searching for his sisters instead, much easier to track down, but my guess is that William was born after the 1901 census and that is why he's not showing up.
Jim
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JaneyCanuck
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28 Sep 2007 15:49 |
So I did what everybody else did ... with the same results.
I also recommend getting that Mabel Richardson birth cert. That won't tell you for sure that she's yours, but you could find her parents in the 1901 census and see whether they look likely. (I was amazed at how many Mabels in Workington born 1891-1901 had elder sisters named Mary and/or sisters named Maggie, etc. ... 'cause I looked! Mabel was the most unusual name to search for, so that was the one I tried.)
This is the only Thomas Richardson death that looks like it might match:
Name: Thomas William Richardson Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Year of Registration: 1904 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 20 District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 442
and this looks like that Thomas in the 1901:
Name: Thomas W Richardson Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Workington Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Workington County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Workington ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 52
Household Members: Name Age Laura Borrowdale 24 John Richardson 11 Joseph J Richardson 20 Mary Richardson 42 Mary A Richardson 13 Thomas Richardson 46 Thomas W Richardson 16 Matches also with the eldest sister being Mary.
That Mary Sr. seems a little old to be having children after 1901 though ... I wonder whether these could be yours, and Mary Sr. died and Thomas Sr. got a newer younger wife?
If your Richardsons had two sons Thomas, one having died at about 18, then one would think the other one wasn't born until after the first one died. If the one above is yours ... there were two Thomas Richardsons registered in Cockermouth in 1905, and one in 1907.
I wonder about a step-children situation too. Your Richardsons' father could have remarried and his step-children taken his surname, e.g.
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JaneyCanuck
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28 Sep 2007 16:06 |
Noticed this in the list of births reproduced in a post above:
William Watson Richardson 1898 Apr-May-Jun Cockermouth Cumbria, Cumberland
and this:
Name: Thomas Richardson Year of Registration: 1897 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 922
+ Ann Watson on same page.
That doesn't make them your people, but it probably makes that William the son of that couple. ;)
Another household in 1901 with children Mary and Thomas:
Emma Bell 18 Mary Isabel Guy 1 Mo Margaret Richardson 36 Mary Richardson 7 Thomas Richardson 5 William Richardson 37
You do need that marriage cert for your William to get the parents' names!!
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~Mama*HOTLIPS* Rambo~
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2 Oct 2007 21:14 |
Thanks everyone
I got the marriage cert and he was born in 1905 and lived at 1 Wallace Lane, workington, he was 19 when he got married his dob is 8/10/1905. His father was also William Richardson(deseased)
Cheers Catherine
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JaneyCanuck
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2 Oct 2007 21:55 |
Does 8/10/1905 = 8 October 1905?
(I hate the US system, 9/11 and all that, but it's more commonly used in Canada so I always have to check which is meant.)
If so, there was only one William Richardson registered in Cockermouth that quarter:
Name: William Richardson Year of Registration: 1905 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Cockermouth County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 637
If the father shown on that birth cert isn't William, you'll know he isn't yours. If he is William, well ...
But it would also give you the mother's name, so finding them in the 1901 might be possible, to confirm whether the couple in question had other children by the names you've got.
This is the only household I see in Workington in 1901 at the moment with a daughter Mary and father William:
Annie E Monkhouse Richardson 3 Doris Robeton Richardson 1 Mary Richardson 30 Mary Elizabeth Richardson 6 Monkhouse Richardson 9 William Richardson 40
and that doesn't look like them.
You'd think maybe that woman's birth surname was Monkhouse, but I don't see a Monkhouse-Richardson marriage.
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