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Hi Everyone

I'm trying to find any record of when the Rhead side of my family tree emigrated to America.

I can only give a date range based on children's births but here's what info I've got:

Josiah Rhead and his wife Eliza (Lewis) moved from Burslem, Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire to Utah (I think maybe Fort Des Moines first but they settled in Coalville, Summit).

There's a 5 year gap between the last child being born in Burslem and the first child being born in Fort Des Moines:

Eliza Persis Rhead 09/05/1855
James Bourne Rhead 17/03/1858

So they moved sometime between those two dates.

Here are the other children born in the UK:

Edward Henry Rhead 09/01/1851
Eliza Persis Rhead 09/05/1855
Josiah Earl Rhead 19/04/1853

Parents details:

Josiah Rhead 26/04/1831
Eliza Lewis 04/11/1824

Married in 1850

Hope that would be enough information for anybody to be able to help me

Just to warn you, I'm having car issues at the moment so might not reply straight away / for a while

Thanks guys and gals

could this be josiah,s burial details.

Name: Josiah Rhead
Birth Date: 1831
Birth Place: England
Burial Date: 24 November 1887
Cemetery: Coalville City Cemetery
Source: Sexton Records / Grant
Grave Location: B_ 4_ 2_1

Hi Richard

Yes that's him!

I've got so much info on him, his children and the generations before and after, I just can't figure out when they left and most interestingly...why!

I shouldn't put (if all the childrenw went with them) because I know they did, because they died over there!

1880

Name: Josiah Rhead
Home in 1880: Coalville, Summit, Utah
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Rhead 49
Eliza Rhead 55
James B. Rhead 21 iowa
William Rhead 19 iowa
Sarah Ann Rhead 16 utah
Lewis Rhead 12 utah

Here's a census. Still looking for emigration.


1880 United States Federal Census
about Josiah Rhead
Name: Josiah Rhead
Home in 1880: Coalville, Summit, Utah
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Josiah Rhead 49
Eliza Rhead 55
James B. Rhead 21
William Rhead 19
Sarah Ann Rhead 16
Lewis Rhead 12

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thanks guys, that's definately them, both of those records!

Managed to find a truck load of info on them, their children, the childrens marriages and their children etc. Just a bit perplexed as to when, how and why they went to Utah!

I've looked at Utah history and it doesn't tie in with anything I can see!

Josiah RHEAD
Birth Date: 21 May 1903
Death Date: Nov 1978
Social Security Number: 528-09-4576
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: Utah

Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 84105
Localities: S Salt Lake, Salt Lake, Utah
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Slc, Salt Lake, Utah

Death Benefit Localities
Zip Code: 84105
Localities: S Salt Lake, Salt Lake, Utah
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah
Slc, Salt Lake, Utah

Hi Ann

That records a new one on me, I've got lots of Josiah Rhead's but none born in 1903!

Sorry natasha i can not find there emigration records, but with speed ancestry is currently working for me i could get on a ship and go over to america and find them quicker.

richard.

Oh dear! Is it on a bit of a go slow?

Thanks for your help Richard, it really is much appreciated. Just intrigued to find out what took them to Utah because they were farmers not coal miners which was the main source of employment at around that time.

So yes, thanks again and if you can't find anything don't worry about it

I had another go at this last night so I'll keep at it for now but as I don't know where they travelled to and from, or even what year I think I amy struggle. So any help would be appreciated!

Thanks

sorry I'm just nudging this up in the hope someone can help me!

I haven't looked for immigration records, but this could be why your Rhead family left:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/immig_emig/england/south_yorkshire/article_2.shtml

This backs up my idea from the previous post:

http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/library/pioneerdetails/0,15791,4018-1-39697,00.html

Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel, 1847–1868
Rhead, Edward Henry
Birth Date: 9 Jan. 1851
Death Date: 12 Oct. 1930
Gender: Male
Age: 5
Company: Edward Martin Company (1856)
Pioneer Information:
left company in Newton, Iowa, and didn't travel to Utah until 1861
Sources:
Rhead, Edward Henry, Autobiographical sketch, in 27th Quorum, Biographies, 1850-1858, vol. 1, n.p., in Seventies Quorum, Records, 1844-1975, reel 83. Read Trail Excerpt Source Locations
Rhead, Josiah, [Excerpts from record book], in Edward H. Rhead, Journal and record book, 4. Read Trail Excerpt Source Locations

Edward Martin Company (1856)
Rhead, Edward Henry (5)
Rhead, Eliza Lewis (31)
Rhead, Eliza Persis (1)
Rhead, Josiah (25)

Joseph W. Young/Ansel P. Harmon/Heber P. Kimball Company (1861)
Rhead, Edward Henry (10)
Rhead, Eliza Lewis (36)
Rhead, Eliza Persis (6)
Rhead, James Bourne (3)
Rhead, Josiah (30)
Rhead, William George (infant)

I have one surname from Essex whose family members were not members of the LDS Church. One branch of this family ended up in Salt Lake City and were members of the Church. They either converted before leaving England, or converted after their arrival in America.

Lisa that's absolutely fantastic.

Don't know how you've found that but that's amazing!

Natasha: You mentioned you have a lot of information about the family. You may know about this website, but since it includes dates of travel, there is a chance you haven't seen it. [It is the middle of the night here, I couldn't sleep so popped in here: I BELIEVE this information is about your family! (I'm not taking the time to read it closely.)]
http://www.xmission.com/~psneeley/Personal/prneele6.htm

(I would be interested to hear if it is your family, and if you already had the information. I look forward to reading the information tomorrow, as I found the first part fascinating.)

Hi Lisa

Thanks for that! I forgot to check back on this thread again sorry!

By coincidence I tried googling alot of names yesterday and came across that website and have been in touch with him, looks like they're a definate match and the info he's got is amazing.

I was totally hooked on that first part you gave me. I found myself getting quite emotional knowing that if Josiah hadn't become ill they'd have stayed on the original ship and possibly died before they got to Salt Lake City. Amazing really! I also read the info you sent me about why they woul;d have gone and that ties in as well because Josiah and Eliza are on the Mormon funding register for 1856 so looks like they converted before they left the UK.

Just by goggling different names I seem to be finding alot of info. For instance I have just found out a realtive working in the mines was injured - he fractured his pelvis - at the age of 64.

So it's very encouraging at the moment