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18 Jul 2009 07:48 |
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Would love to have contact with any living relatives/descendants of brothers and sisters John Alfred Pratt b1893 Stepney, London married (we think) an Ada,
Ada A Pratt b1894 m Andrew G W Laird (of Scottish descent) in 1926-their daughter is Jean Laird, Andrew may have moved briefly to Aust and then back to Britain where he may have remarried. Possibly Jean moved to Canada?
Robert William Pratt b1896, m Maud Sanford had 4 chn Dorothy died at 6 months Robert E Pratt b 1923 m M Mitchell - 2 sons Tim and Gareth, Vera Pratt (Contact with a child of Vera's) and Iris Pratt-2 chn Graham and Ann. Ann has 2 chn Nicholas and Natasha
Minnie Annie Pratt b1898, married Herbert E Godfrey in 1919 and had chn Violet M Godfrey b 1920, Ronald H Godfrey 1922 and Patricia J Godfrey 1932. These 3 chn were all registered in West Ham Violet Godfrey m Rueben Geddes and had 2 children Raymond Geddes (have contact with his daughter) and a sister. Ronald Godfrey m and had 2 chn
Rachel Pratt b1900 married Albert J Hall in 1927, had a child Albert W. Child Albert W Hall m Shelia Shultz (her father was of Dutch origin)and had 5 chn Derek Hall, Christopher Hall, Steven Hall, Katherine Hall, Jane Hall
Violet Pratt b abt 1901 Mile End, London, m Albert Hencher They had twins- Patrick (can only find twins Violet and Albert Hencher in BMD) who died as a child and Violet b 1929. Violet Hencher m ? and had Tina? and remarried Reginald Tomlinson d abt 2006 and had David Tomlinson
Joseph Henry Pratt b1906- have contact,
Ethel Pratt b1905-married Richard Bowden (spelling may be incorrect -he served in the army) They had at least one daughter- Maureen S or J Bowden b abt 1930 who married Cornelius (nickname Con ) Coughlin, They had 4 chn. Cornelius, Vincent Coughlin, Natalie Coughlin and Dominique Coughlin. d age 40ish-found death in bmd records.
Rueben Pratt b1908, London m Lena we think Cunningham in 1927 (at least 2 daughters- Doreen Pratt, Effie Pratt-prob a nickname and ? maybe a Pauline) all born in England. Looking at BMD i revise the "memory" to Ada D Pratt b 1927, Ethel S b 1929 and Pauline J b 1933
Please pm if you are related
Thanks Sarah
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27 Oct 2009 12:12 |
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27 Oct 2009 12:33 |
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Sarah, have you tried contacting Jean on Records Office board? She can do 2009 electoral register lookups. If you have names like Cornelius and Dominique Coughlin to look for I would say you have a chance of finding them! Jan
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27 Oct 2009 12:41 |
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Hi Jan,
Thanks for that brilliant piece of news. I will try looking on the records board for a Jean right now. Fingers crossed
Sarah
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4 Mar 2011 10:09 |
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Update: Reuben was married to auntie Lena-this may well have been a nickname NOT Lena Cunningham as previously thought.
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4 Mar 2011 10:11 |
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Have you tried searching the trees?
Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CUNNINGHAM Lena PRATT Romford 4a 562 Pratt Reuben Cunningham Romford 4a 562
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4 Mar 2011 10:16 |
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Fuller info makes searching more likely to succeed
Births Mar 1908 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pratt Reuben Edward W. Ham 4a 286
Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brown Helen Pratt W.Ham 4a 42 Pratt Reuben E Brown W.Ham 4a 42
Name: Rueben Edward Pratt Birth Date: 7 Feb 1908 Death Registration Month/Year: 1981 Registration district: Hackney Inferred County: London Volume: 12 Page: 1538
BUT........as advised above, use GR's search trees option.......
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4 Mar 2011 10:20 |
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The three daughters you mention belong to Pratt/Cunningham marriage.
all born before 1934 so did he remarry?
jax
or could this be the one who married in 1934??
Births Jun 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pratt Reuben E Wright W.Ham 4a 249
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4 Mar 2011 10:25 |
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As Sarah has now discounted the marriage to Cunningham, one assumes that the names she gives for the children are also now irrelevant.................
NO second name for the man who married Cunningham............
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4 Mar 2011 10:33 |
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It sounded to me she knew the the daughters names maybe I read it wrong??
He did'nt use a 2nd initial when he married??? My gran used two completly different ones???
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4 Mar 2011 10:46 |
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The only other Reuben with no middle initial was born in 1894 and he died in 1909 aged 15
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4 Mar 2011 11:30 |
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Person: PRATT, Reuben Address: 60 Kempton Road East Ham E Cost: You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. PRATT, John Head Married M 39 1872 Cork Sorter London Stepney VIEW PRATT, Ada Wife Married 19 years F 40 1871 London Wapping VIEW PRATT, John Son Single M 18 1893 Cork Sorter London Stepney VIEW PRATT, Ada Daughter Single F 16 1895 London Stepney VIEW PRATT, Robert Son M 15 1896 Stone Setter London Stepney VIEW PRATT, Minnie Daughter F 12 1899 School London Stepney VIEW PRATT, Rachel Daughter F 11 1900 School London Stepney VIEW PRATT, Violet Daughter F 7 1904 School Essex East Ham VIEW PRATT, Ethel Daughter F 6 1905 School Essex East Ham VIEW PRATT, Joseph Son M 5 1906 School Essex East Ham VIEW PRATT, Reuben Son M 3 1908 Essex East Ham VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 9536 Reference: RG14PN9536 RG78PN509 RD188 SD5 ED17 SN332 Registration District: West Ham Sub District: South East Ham Enumeration District: 17 Parish
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4 Mar 2011 12:32 |
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Marriages Mar 1927
Hencher Albert Pratt W.Ham 4a 357 Pratt Emma V Hencher W.Ham 4a 357
Births Dec 1903 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pratt Emma Violet W. Ham 4a 308 ____________________________________________________
Births Mar 1930 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hencher Albert J Pratt Romford 4a 826 Hencher Violet A Pratt Romford 4a 826 ___________________________________
Deaths Mar 1936 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hencher Albert J 6 Romford 4a 648
NO birth for a child named Patrick.....there is, however, a possible later birth (1937) of a child for this couple. Check it out on freebmd _________________________________________________________
Name: Emma Violet Hencher Birth Date: 19 Sep 1903 Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 1984 Age at death (estimated): 81 Registration district: Enfield Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 12 Page: 633
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4 Mar 2011 12:37 |
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???????
Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JONES Ada Alice Mile End 1c 846 Pratt John Samuel Mile End 1c 846
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4 Mar 2011 12:49 |
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Name: Rachael Pratt Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Pratt Mother's Name: Ada Pratt Gender: Female Where born: Stepney, London, England Civil parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip Stepney Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 232 Household Members: Name Age John Pratt 29 Ada Pratt 30 John Pratt 8 Ada Pratt 7 Robert Pratt 5 Minnie Pratt 2 Rachael Pratt 1 Violet Pratt 5 Months
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Sarah
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6 Mar 2011 06:12 |
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Thanks for all the input! It's looking like maybe auntie Lena could possibly be Helen Brown. Not a huge stretch for a Helen to be called Auntie Lena by a young child! The "memory" recalls 2 cousin chn of this marriage for Reuben and Auntie Lena (Helen) being the names Doreen and Effie-Effie could well be a nickname! Possibly there was a 3rd child called Pauline but she may have been a visitor/neighbour-not a cousin!
The 1901 and 1911 transcripts are the correct family- Reuben is listed with no middle initial-as are his siblings. So very frustrating!
It looks like someone has found a marriage for a Reuben Pratt to an E Wright if I'm reading this correctly. But the birthdate of this Reuben is 1916 so can't be the correct Reuben
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6 Mar 2011 11:25 |
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There were two Reuben Pratts one born 1908 the other 1916
They both married as far as I can see or the elder one married twice (which I doubt)
1908 Reuben married Lena in1927
1916 Reuben married Helen in 1934
The three daughters you remember have Reuben and Lena as their parents Ada D (Doreen) Ethel (Effie) and Pauline
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