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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Jun 2010 17:12

Hi, i am trying to find info regarding David Richardson Porter. This is what i have ...... born 25/09/1827 City Of London Middlesex. Baptised 11/11/1827 St Botolph, Aldgate, City Of London, Middlesex. Parents Daniel Porter and Christian Richardson.
I have found a marriage enrty ... 1850 Poplar Greater London, Middlesex, but unfortunately there are four wives to choose from!
The problem that i have is that i cannot find David in any Census!

I would be very grateful for some help please Sue.

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 8 Jun 2010 17:18

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about David Richardson Porter
Name: David Richardson Porter
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Spouse Name: Mary Jane Finch
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Jul 1849
Parish: All Saints, Poplar
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Daniel Porter
Spouse Father Name: John Finch

Groom's occupation - mariner.
Groom's address - Bow, Middlesex
Groom's father's occupation - mariner
Bride's address - Poplar
Bride's father's occupation - farmer


Bride and groom's age just given as 'of full age' - he was a bachelor, she was a spinster.

Witnesses - John Gough and Anne Maria Finch.


NOTE: the year has been mistranscribed on this record - the original shows 1850.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 8 Jun 2010 17:25

Possibility??

1861:
Name: David Porter
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Patient
Gender: Male
Where born: Bow, Essex, England

Civil parish: Kensington St Mary Abbott
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Abbott
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel: Hospital for Consumption and Diseases of the Chest

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Jun 2010 17:46

That is fantastic, thankyou so much, i am extremely grateful to you all for your time. Sue

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Jun 2010 19:35

Help!!! I am absolutlely baffled!
Going back to the 1851 Census on here ...

David Porter son in law - son in law to who???

Mary Jane Porter - Index states "Wife of East!" (I assume this is Davids wife)

Merion Kate Porter Grandaughter - Grandaughter to who???

Anne Marie Porter Daughter - Daughter to who?? it cant be the daughter of David and Sarah because she was born when David was 7 ... his sister perhaps?

Any ideas gratefully excepted Sue.

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jun 2010 19:41

There is probably more family on a previous page.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Jun 2010 19:49

Hi Michael, i looked and as Davids wifes maiden name is Finch, there's not another Finch in sight! Sue

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Jun 2010 20:17

That really gave me a chuckle SomersetGirl! Sue.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Jun 2010 20:37

Maybe if you look at it another way, perhaps David is Head of House.... with wife Mary. And David's sister Anne with her illlegitimate daughter Merion (Marion) who David claims to be his Grandaughter?? Sue

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Jun 2010 21:36

Ok. here is my last post of the evening because i really need to go and self harm!!!
A witness at David and Mary's wedding is ... Anne Maria Finch!
Which i assumed to be Mary's mother or sister. And i think it would be fair to say, that if David and Mary had a daughter, they might well have named her ... Anne Maria ... but the Anne Maria in the 1851 Census cannot possibly be their daughter....and so, if she is a Porter as it states in the Census, surely she must be Davids sister???
Will be back tomorrow, for many more hours of frustrating pleasure!! Sue x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 8 Jun 2010 22:02

Maria Kate Porter, daughter of David and Mary!!!! oh my goodness SomersetGirl, what a find! I am all boggled eyed over here.
Thankyou soo much for hanging in there with me.I hope that you understand that i need to switch off and regather my thoughts for tomorrow. It has been a very long day. Sue x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jun 2010 13:59

David Richardson Porter - Round 2!

I am pleased to announce that with all credit due to Ninjalady, Jonesey and especially SomersetGirl, i just about have this one in the bag!
Not only do i now know that the enumerator for the 1851 census was a heavy drinker with a screw loose and held a bitter resentment towrds the name Porter! but i also know that Maria/Marion Kate Porter was indeed the daughter of David and Mary.
I checked out Jonesey's 1861 census, which states David was a former Ship Steward (which he was in the 1851 census) it also states that he is a widower. I found a death entry for wife Mary in 1857 so that all ties in nicely.
As Anne Marie Porter is obviously not the daughter of David and Mary but possibly Marys sister, i am not too concerned about her.
To wrap this up, i am trying to find a death entry for david but am having no luck. If anyone can please find it, i would as always be very grateful.

Well thats the good news, the bad news is the fact that i have now moved on to Davids sister Mary and its not looking good!! And so, if this thread should happen to pop up later in the day, you might all want to do a runner!!

Thankyou everyone Sue x

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jun 2010 18:59

Boo! I know you are still out there!! Sue.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jun 2010 20:01

Hi SomersetGirl, and bless you for hanging in there for me. I too am stumped about the death of David. But at the end of the day, as sure as eggs are eggs, he's dead! So no point me popping off to the hospital with a bag of grapes and a bottle of lucozade! LOL!
So, as you are obviously a glutton for punishment (and i love you for it!)

Mary C Porter (sister of David) born 1841 Leith Scotland (how odd!)
1851 Census, with parents Daniel and Christian ...
1861 Census.... Mary is a servant with the Mariner family, aged 21. Res: Whitechapel, Middlesex.
and that is as far as i can go.......

Thankyou x

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 9 Jun 2010 20:19

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Mary Porter
Name: Mary Porter
Spouse Name: George Sims
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 12 May 1868
Parish: St George in the East
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Daniel Porter
Spouse Father Name: William Sims

Although the father is listed as Daniel Porter, the occupation for him is Cellarman and not mariner.

Groom was a widower, bride was a spinster.
His occupation - labourer.
Her address - Bostock Street

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 9 Jun 2010 20:22

Here we have a Mary Sims, born 1840 Leath, Scotland

1881 England Census
about Mary Sims
Name: Mary Sims
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Leath, Scotland

Civil parish: St George in The East
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 1 Bostock St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Sims 62 ...engine driver....born Wiltshire
Mary Sims 41
Annie Sims 10
Winefried Sims 4
Jane Sims 2


CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 9 Jun 2010 20:35

Mary's daughters Winifred and Jane in 1901

1901 England Census
about Michael Bazer
Name: Michael Bazer
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Bostock Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George in the East
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Winifred Sims 25 ...laundry maid
Jane Sims 22 ...laundry maid
Michael Bazer 35
Elena Bazer 25



CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 9 Jun 2010 20:37

Mary and daughter Jane in 1891

1891 England Census
about Jane Sims
Name: Jane Sims
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: St George in The East, London, England

Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 6 Bostock Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Sims 46 ....widow...born Scotland...charwoman
Jane Sims 13


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Jun 2010 20:38

Please bare with me for a minute while i take that all in. Ninjalady, i have Daniels occupaton as.. Cellar Man! oooh, its looking good!

CherryBlossom

CherryBlossom Report 9 Jun 2010 20:44

Possible death for Mary??

Deaths Dec 1899 (>99%)
Sims Mary 59 St. Geo. East 1c 287