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i am having trouble getting any further with my family tree my great grandfather was schofield parkinson wife abigail born in huddersfield in 1858 his father was abraham born around 1832 in huddersfield his wife was abigail but i cannot find out who abrahams father was i got a marriage certificate dated may 11th1856 in huddersfield hoping it would have his fathers name on but didnt also it spelt his name parkson but i feel sure it was the right also i am stuck withtheperson

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1851 England Census
about Abraham Parkinson Name: Abraham Parkinson
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Caroline Parkinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Lockwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Lockwood
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Lockwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Parkinson 58
Margret Parkinson 28
Thomas Parkinson 19
Abraham Parkinson 16
Alfred Parkinson 14
John Parkinson 6

1861 for info ONLY

Name: Abraham Parkinson
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Abigail Parkinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Huddersfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Huddersfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 241
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Parkinson 29
Abigail Parkinson 26 b. Longwood, Yorks
Fred Parkinson 4
Schofield Parkinson 2

Given his son's name it certainly looks like the correct marriage.

For ref.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%)
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HINCHLIFFE Lydia Huddersfield 9a 279
PARKSON Abraham Huddersfield 9a 279
Quarmby James Huddersfield 9a 279
SCHOFIELD Abigail Huddersfield 9a 279




Perhaps there is no father's name on his marriage certificate because he never knew his father?

Do you have this birth certificate? (You don't mention Schofield's mother) which would confirm you had the right marriage for Abraham.

Births Jun 1859
PARKINSON Schofield - Huddersfield 9a 322

"great grandfather was schofield parkinson wife abigail "

Wasn't Abigail Abraham's wife ??

1891 - Schofield's wife is Annie.

Name: Schofield Parkinson
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Annie E Parkinson
Gender: Male
Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Huddersfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
Town: Huddersfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Huddersfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Schofield Parkinson 32
Annie E Parkinson 27
Kezia Parkinson 12
Schofield Parkinson 7
Herbert Parkinson 5
Fred Parkinson 2

thanks a lot much as i thought i did see that family with caraline,a widow, as head ,but i can't go back any further nothing for this family in 1841 census ,yes schofields wife was ann elizabeth agar lodge born 1862 i have a birth certificate her mother who was hannah formerly agar father james lodge she was born in june 1862 in huddersfield at brown hills kirkheaton huddersfield but i cannot find the family on a census i seem to have hit a brick wall again i can't even find a match for them in marriage thanks again

MARRIAGE

Annie Elizabeth A Lodge 1880 Huddersfield Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Schofield Parkinson 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 400

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ABIGAIL SCHOFIELD
Christening: 03 NOV 1844 Longwood, Yorkshire, England

Parents:
Father: JOSEPH SCHOFIELD
Mother: MARY

Batch Number: C108261

Jean- just an outside chance but Lancashire have a good website(lan-opc) for marriages etc. On the 1851 census Caroline/Caraline Parkinson is entered as widow and the possible eldest child is 28 born in Lancashire. You could try entering Parkinson around 1821 and see if it shows any marriages with a Caroline. Know its an outside chance but if that doesn't show anything try entering the daughter entered as Margret( or Margaret) and see if that show her parents-Jle

1841 census

Name: Joseph Schofield
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Huddersfield
Hundred: Agbrigg (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Golcar
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Schofield 30
Mary Schofield 30
Elizabeth Schofield 13
Sarah Schofield 9
Abagil Schofield 7
Charles Schofield 4
Mary Ann Schofield 1
David Colton 20

i have tried everything i still cannot trace abraham parkinson back any further than the 1851 census prviding this is his family no sign of any of the family in the 1841 census i have also looked in the lancashire records as caroline was born in lancaster i n 1793 and margret parkinson, her daughter, was born in lancaster in 1823 the rest of the family were born in huddersfield i really seem to have hit a brick wall.also i seem to be stuck on other members of my family my great grandma ann elizabeth agar parkinson, nee lodge ,was born in huddersfield in 1862 her parents were hannah lodge,formerly agar ,who was married to abrahams son, schofield ,formerly agar, and james lodge i cannot find a marriage for them or any of them together on the census for 1871 when she would have been 9 ,for i have tried everything i can think of can anyone please help

Sorry, but I can't deal with unpunctuated blocks of text..............


i have tried everything

i still cannot trace abraham parkinson back any further than the 1851 census prviding this is his family

no sign of any of the family in the 1841 census

i have also looked in the lancashire records as caroline was born in lancaster i n 1793 and margret parkinson, her daughter, was born in lancaster in 1823

the rest of the family were born in huddersfield

i really seem to have hit a brick wall.

also i seem to be stuck on other members of my family

my great grandma ann elizabeth agar parkinson, nee lodge ,was born in huddersfield in 1862

her parents were hannah lodge,formerly agar ,who was married to abrahams son, schofield ,formerly agar, and james lodge

i cannot find a marriage for them or any of them together on the census for 1871 when she would have been 9 ,

for i have tried everything i can think of can anyone please help
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Some of what you have posted is puzzling, to say the least.


Do you mean that Hannah was Agar at birth, then married Parkinson, before marrying Lodge? The info does need to be clear for us to be able to help you..............and we do want to help!

According to the facts posted earlier it was Annie Lodge who married Schofield Parkinson.............

What was James Lodge's occupation?

If Abraham's father's name wasn't on his marriage cert..........then he obviously didn't know him.

Perhaps Caroline wasn't actually a widow? Maybe she never actually married?

I'm guessing that the grandson, John, on 1851, was Margaret's child?

i have a birth certificate for ann elizabeth agar lodge (my g g grandma ) born in 1862 it states her parents were james lodge (an outdoor labourer) and hannah lodge formely agar both of brown hills, kirkheaton ,huddersfield so wether that was hannahs birthname or wether she had been married before i don't know but i can't find a marriage between them or any thing on a census annie went on to marry schofield parkinson in 1880 in huddersfield schofield was the son af abraham parkinson who was married to abigail (schofield) i have seen on the 1851 census the parkinson family with caroline as head i would have thought that his father was dead as he was not named on abraham and abigails marriage certificate i think john must have been margarets son there was also an older brother and a younger brother alfred but i can't find anyone on the1841 census thanks for your reply i would be very grateful if someone could help

Oh Jean !

Please use sentences and paragraphs.

A string of words with no separation is far too confusing.

Yet again, spacing it out for ease of understanding........and capital initial letters for the names would also be a good idea..............

i have a birth certificate for ann elizabeth agar lodge (my g g grandma ) born in 1862 it states her parents were james lodge (an outdoor labourer) and hannah lodge formely agar both of brown hills, kirkheaton ,huddersfield

so wether that was hannahs birthname or wether she had been married before i don't know but i can't find a marriage between them or any thing on a census

annie went on to marry schofield parkinson in 1880 in huddersfield schofield was the son af abraham parkinson who was married to abigail (schofield)

i have seen on the 1851 census the parkinson family with caroline as head i would have thought that his father was dead as he was not named on abraham and abigails marriage certificate

i think john must have been margarets son there was also an older brother and a younger brother alfred but i can't find anyone on the1841 census

thanks for your reply i would be very grateful if someone could help

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Jean

Please don't keep repeating yourself...........everyone can see what info have been found for you.

If it had been possible to find any of the Parkinsons on 1841, the info would have been posted on here for you.

There is no record of them.

It be that they missed the census...........or that the particular record is not available for some reason.

Abraham's failure to name his father when he married shows that he didn't know who his father was............whether he was dead or alive makes no difference.

The fact that no-one can find a marriage for Hannah to James would suggest that there wasn't one.

If Hannah had been married more than once, the fact SHOULD have been recorded on her child's birth cert

If you respond, please follow the example here, and use some punctuation and spacing.