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Help! Trying to find George Palmer, Coach Builder and father to Charles born c1883. Charles Palmer married Annie Willows in Hastings in 1908. Cannot find Charle's birth certificate or Annie's. Have found 3 George Palmer's that are Coach Builders but no link to a son Charles.... I am stuck! Any help appreciated!

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Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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Bull Florence Lily Hastings 2b 51
Palmer Charles Hastings 2b 51
SPRAY Thomas Hastings 2b 51
Willows Annie Hastings 2b 51

How old was Annie on marriage cert?
were the witnesses relatives,
what was Charle's occupation?

Hi, Annie Willows was 26. Charles Palmer was 25.

What was the occupation of Charles from the marriage cert?

Grocer in St Leonards, Hastings

Oh bother. Hardly likely to be a grocer at age 18. Was just checking 1901 on National Archives as they display occupation.

Hi,

What address is on the cert,

what was Annie's fathers name/occupation?

One of these could be Annie maybe?

Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
Willows Annie Eton 3a 593
The district Eton is in the county of Buckinghamshire

Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
Willows Annie Maud Wisbeach 3b 570
The district Wisbeach is an alternative name for Wisbech and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Cambridgeshire and Norfolk

7 North Street.
Thank you

Annie Willows father is stated as John Willows - Mechanic

These need checking in 1891 to see if Charles is there:-

1881

Name: George Palmer
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phoebe
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Chesterfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: 11 Dowdeswell St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Coach Smith (Builder)

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Palmer 12
Ernest Palmer 10
George Palmer 37
Phoebe Palmer 37
Phoebe Palmer 6
Walter Palmer

Name: George Palmer
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Godstone, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Reigate Foreign
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address: Hatchlands
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Coach Builder Master Employing 2 Men 2 Boys

Registration district: Reigate
Sub registration district: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Goldsmith 27
George Palmer 24


Just looking for all the George Palmers in 1881 census who were coach builders!

could only find the two?

Oh Bother!
Have checked 1891 and Charles doesn't appear with either of these.

I have just ordered Annie Willows birth certificate born 1882 Eton. Any joy anyone finding a link between George Palmer Coach Builder with a son Charles? Thanks for your help!

This would go with one of the birth records for Annie.
Father is John but is noted as Gas and Water Works Manager (could that be considered as Mechanic?)

1891 census
Name: Annie Willows
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Female
Where born: Taplow, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Taplow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Eton
Sub registration district: Burnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Lawson 48
Albert Willows 6
Annie Willows 8
Arthur Willows 16
Elizabeth Willows 8
Ernest Willows 4
George Willows 13
Herbert Willows 11
John Willows 47
John Willows 19
Rebecca Willows 43

Hi Valerie,

I've searched for you hun on the Palmer side and sorry i can't see anything.

Just a thought, I have a marriage cert of 1 of my ancestors, he put his grandfather down on his marriage cert as his father, illgitimate, could this be the problem we're having??

Dee x

?? 1881Name: George Palmer
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Mitchelmarsh, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Willerby in Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Willerby
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Coachman (D)

Name: Emma Palmer
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Hardcott, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Willerby in Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Willerby
Condition as to marriage: Married


1901

Name: George Palmer
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitmarsh, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Bertram George Palmer 17
Charles Percy Palmer 19
Emma Palmer 45
George Palmer 44
Gertrude Ethel Palmer 11
Leonard Palmer 10
Maurice Plyer Palmer 13
Sydney Herbert Palmer 16
George is a groom but grocer is crossed out ,Sydney is a grocers asst. Just wondered if it might be a connection but looks like you might need to wait or 1911 census !