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I have hit a wall with Charles Pache. He married Elizabeth Yetmann, Mary Sanders and Ann Connor. He lived in Bristol "under the bank" but was not born in the county. I can't find any information like where he was born or parentage/siblings? Be grateful for any help!

Alison

Can you explain please, it means very little to us 'not' in the know

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Is this him?

1841 England Census
about Charles Pache
Name: Charles Pache
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1781
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St Augustine The Less
Hundred: Bristol City
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St Augustine
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Pache 60
Elizabeth Pache 40
Elenor Pache 15
Henry Pache 13

Gosh, that was a quick reply. Thanks, Ginny. Yes, that is him. I cannot seem to find any details further back than this, though. I know that he lived in Bristol and his children with Elizabeth are my ancestors. I cannot find any details of his siblings, parentage etc... Sorry if I seem vague, this is my first post. x

Well, he's not born of that parish in 1840...suprise!

Occupation; engraver

Where did he marry his other spouses and if you have any other details about him or how you got to him in the first place, that would be fab

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From BVRI:

PACHE, Charles Marriage
Wife: Elizabeth YETMAN
Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1813 Recorded in: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Collection: St Michael
Source: FHL Film 1595867 Dates: 1813 - 1863

Thanks Margaret and Ginny. I found him by tracing back my Grandfather's line. If I start 1872-1910(not my grandfather!) Frederick Louis, 1842-1918, Charles Louis 1815-1885, Charles 1781-1849. Charles had a June 1849 death date and married Elizabeth 19.7.1813. My grandfather said there was a link with the Swiss Paches and also a link with Nicolas, Mayor of Paris but this is only hearsay at present.

Just taking another nosey around

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Charles Pache
Name: Charles Pache
Gender: Male
Spouse's name: Ann Connor
Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1810
Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England


Gloucestershire, England, Extracted Parish Records
about Charles Pache Mary Sandes
Text: 527 22 Aug 1802 Charles Pache & Mary Sandes botp Banns

How thoughtless of him not to live another couple of years to the 51 census!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Charles Pache
Name: Charles Pache
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 119 (click to see others on page)

From the directories listing

Name: Charles Pache
Publication: 1844 - Gloucestershire, England

Engraver; St Augustines Parade

Charles Pache Pedigree
Male Family


Marriages:
Spouse: Mary Sandes Family
Marriage: 22 AUG 1802 St John Baptist'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England


Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

I040739

CHARLES PACHE Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH YETMAN Family
Marriage: 19 JUL 1813 St Michaels, Bristol, Gloucester, England


Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

I wonder if this is a relation of Charles?

1851 England Census
about Elex R Pache
Name: Elex R Pache
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Where born: Bristol

Civil parish: Bristol St Nicholas
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: Castle Precincts
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Elex R Pache 56 <<<Dealer in shells?
Henry Pache 22 <<<<<<<St Augustines Bristol
Sarah Evans 38

St Augustines is the same place as the directory listing for Charles


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Absolutely! Thank you so much. x

Thank you for your help, Mel. x

The Elex R Pache info is really interesting. Possibly a brother of Charles? I have a Henry Pache 1829 on the tree as Charles' son so that would tally perfectly with him being 22 in 1851. Elex is an unusual name.

Thank you, I really appreciate your hard work. I'm away for a couple of days so if anyone posts any replies, please don't think I'm being ignorant!

Alison

Ahh, the "Elex" mystery is solved. It's his widow, Elizabeth. She was the head of the household in the 1851 Census. Ahh, well. x

Hi Alison,

I just looked at that census for Elex and it is clearly Eliz a Shell dealer and son Henry is a Bird Stuffer! I had to laugh...............sorry!

Also it isn't Eliz R Pache it is Eliz'th short for Elizabeth.


Eleonor Pache Pedigree
Female

Birth:
Christening: 16 APR 1826 Bristol, Gloucester, England :

Parents:
Father: Charles Pache Family
Mother: Elizabeth Pache

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C016773

Bird Stuffer....oh good grief!!!

Made me laugh too
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Ha! Ha! Further down the line it's glass eyes that they turn their attention to! Thanks for all of your help. Perhaps a birth cert for Charles L Pache 1815 would have the birth place of his father. I can't understand why everything about his birth place is so hard to find. I wonder why it isn't on the census?!

Alison x