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Lois Mary

Lois Mary Report 24 Dec 2010 12:26

I am trying to find marriage of Dennis Nugent and Mary Ann Brown. On the 1911 census she says 'married 18 years' so the marriage should be c1893. The only marriage I can find is in 1916 in Easington, Durham. They have some cousins the McGurks living with them in 1911 at 25, Northcote Street, Stockton. Dennis was born Ireland, Tyrone c1870. Lois

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Dec 2010 12:32

Where were they living in 1911? maybe the 18 years was a face saver.
Have you found them on the 1901 census.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Dec 2010 12:32

My great grandparents lied on the 1901 and 1911 census about being married - eventually found the marriage in 1914

So does not mean they did marry when they stated or might have been afterwards or never at all or in a different country

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Dec 2010 12:33

1911 for info
NUGENT, Dennis Head Married M 40 1871 Labourer At Blastfurnaces Marnwalls Tyrone Ireland Resident VIEW
NUGENT, Mary Wife Married
18 years F 39 1872 Durham Spennymoor
NUGENT, Catherne Daughter Single F 17 1894 Stockton
NUGENT, Millicent Daughter Single F 16 1895 Stockton
NUGENT, Dinnie Son Single M 11 1900 School Stockton - Dennie on image
NUGENT, Lizzie Daughter F 7 1904 School Stockton
NUGENT, William John Son M 6 1905 School Stockton
MCGURK, Patrick Cousin Border Single M 30 1881 Blastfurnace Labours Kileanon Tyrone Ireland Resident
MCGURK, John Cousin Border Single M 24 1887 Blastfurnace Labours Kileanon Tyrone Ireland Resident
MCGURK, Patrick Cousin Border Single M 22 1889 Blastfurnace Labours Kileanon Tyrone Ireland Resident

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29550 Reference:
RG14PN29550 RG78PN1717A RD544 SD1 ED4 SN185

Registration District:
Stockton Sub District:
Stockton Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Stockton on Tees

Address:
25 Northcote St Stockton-On-Tees

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Dec 2010 12:35

is this the family in 1901?
Name: Dennis Nugent
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Nugent
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Stockton On Tees
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stockton On Tees
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:70 Bickersterle st (unclear)

Occupation:Blast Furnaceman

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members: Name Age
Dennis Nugent 32
Mary Nugent 28
Catherine Nugent 7
Millicent Nugent 6
Dennis Nugent 1


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4622; Folio: 44; Page: 25.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Dec 2010 12:39

1891
Name: Donneas Nugent
[Dennis Nugent]
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Stockton On Tees
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Stockton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:72 Bickersterle street

Occupation:labourer in Iron Woks

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Stockton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Murdoch 44
Margaret Murdoch 30
George Murdoch 12
Lizzie Murdoch 10
Frederick Murdoch 4
Joseph Nugent 25
Donneas Nugent 21
James Nelis 52


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4047; Folio 38; Page 27; GSU roll: 6099157.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Dec 2010 12:42

looks like the 1916 marriage is them !!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Dec 2010 12:43

Really strange as a lot of members are finding marriages in 1914 after the 1901 or 1911 census wonder why

jax

jax Report 24 Dec 2010 12:54

Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Brown Mary A Nugent Easington 10a 694
Nugent Dennis Brown Easington 10a 694

There are no children that I can see for this couple after this date so it is more than likely to be them

Flick

Flick Report 24 Dec 2010 12:57

Lois missed out some info when she posted this thread...........copied from her posting on someone else's Nugent thread


"am looking for Dennis Nugent who married Mary Ann Brown. On the 1911 census part of the McGurk family are living with them at 25 Northcote Street, Stockton. Patrick aged 30,John aged 24 and another Patrick aged 22. *********The only marriage I can find between my two is at Easington, Durham in 1916**********. They had a few children by then!! The marriage should have been about 1893. Has anyone any clues? Were they married in Ireland? Seems unlikely as Mary was born in Durham. Dennis gives his birth place as Marnwalls, Tyrone, Ireland. The McGurks are cousins"

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 24 Dec 2010 15:03

Wel it may be that Patrick served in WW1 and had to be married in order to send home his family allotment. Had an instance in my close family where they had lived together for 5 years and had two children before they married in 1914. There was no legal reasons why they hadnt married before then

Lois Mary

Lois Mary Report 24 Dec 2010 15:22

Thanks to you all!! I had found the 1911 census and the 1901 but was puzzled by the Donneas Nugent on the 1891 census. I shall risk it and send for the marriage certificate in 1916. I like this site!! I am almost 80 so you will have to bear with me but thanks to you all. Lois

Lois Mary

Lois Mary Report 7 Jan 2011 17:07

Hi Shirley, Can you tell me where you found the 1901 census for Dennis Nugent. I found it on Find My Past but didn't get the actual details and I ran out of credits. On the genes reunited site it doesn't seem to know him. I found him on the 1911 census. I have the folio number etc for 1901. Can I use that? Regards Lois.

Flick

Flick Report 7 Jan 2011 17:13

The 1901 was found on Ancestry website.

If you are looking for 1901 on GR, I would imagine you should be able to use the RG numbers to search.......but, as I have never used GR's records, I can't be 100% sure.

Worth trying, though.......................

mac

mac Report 7 Jan 2011 17:39

No, can't search using the numbers, the surname field is mandatory and doesn't seem to accept a wildcard. Really frustrating, find it all the time - can see someone on FMP but they don't appear on here. Sorry Lois, I've tried as well but can't find them on GR.

Flick, can you see others on page so I can try to find them on here to locate the original?

mac

mac Report 7 Jan 2011 18:04

Lois, found them been mis-transcribed on GR, so if you search for Hugent you'll get to them.

Dennis Hugent
Relation to Head of Family Head
Age Last Birthday 32
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Blast Furnaceman
Employment Status
Condition as to Marriage Married
Where Born Ireland
Address 70 Bickersteth Street
Civil Parish Stockton On Tees
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet Stockton On Tees
Ecclesiastical Parish Holy Trinity
Parliamentary Borough or Division Stockton On Tees
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Stockton On Tees
Administrative County Durham
Ward of Municipal Borough or Urban District Parkfield

Lois Mary

Lois Mary Report 8 Jan 2011 09:22

Many thanks mac, This site is so good, or the people on it are!! Talk about help the aged!! I am off to a wedding now and the groom is 80. Talk about hope over experience!! Lois

Lois Mary

Lois Mary Report 20 Jan 2011 13:07

Hi all helpers, I sent for the marriage of Dennis Nugent to Mary Ann Brown and the one in 1916 was correct. Why they decided to marry after all that time is a mystery but it is worth the £12 to be sure. Thanks again for your suggestions. Lois

jax

jax Report 20 Jan 2011 13:15

why did you pay £12 did you not purchase it through GRO ? at £9.25

jax

Lois Mary

Lois Mary Report 21 Jan 2011 08:59

Hi Jax, Didn't know that as I started Family history 40 years ago when you sent for certificates to the appropriate register office. Thanks for advice and will try that next time. Thanks again all helpers. Lois