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Here is a challenge. I have a copy of Certificate of Marriage 'Schedule E' (19 Victoria No 30).

The marriage took place on 10th September 1889 at St Michaels Church, 'Sydwry' between Thomas Henry Morgon, hairdresser Sydwry and bachelor & Julia Newitt, Puridli Life 'Sydwry', Spinster.

Apologies but I can't make out the writing and there is a word which appears to be 'Sydwry'. It could be Sydwuy or Sydwry, or even Lydwny ..... however I can't find it on the internet.

The clergyman was Edward David Headguide and the marriage took place at the Church of England at St Michael's Church, Sydwry.

The witness's were Wm R Barrister and Lucy L Morgon.

I believe that Thomas Henry Morgon was also husband to Alice Morgon and their daughter was Alice Henrietta Morgon (my grandmother).

My mother seems to think that Thomas Henry Morgon had a barber's shop in Sydney, Australia ...... not sure if this is true but I do have a photo of him standing outside a shop with his name above.

Can anyone throw some light on this?

Many thanks

If this is Australia, could the name not be Sydney?

Yes, could be but not convinced. The word does not look like Sydney. If he was in Australia he must have come back as my grand mother was born in 1905 in Ealing. Her christening date was 7/7/1905

On ancestry there is this:-

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
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Name: Thos H Morgon
Arrival Port: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
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Name: Thos H Morgon
Birth: year
Departure: location
Arrival: date - Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia

but my subscription doesn't allow me to view, so can't say if it is your Thomas Henry Morgon!

What was your Grandmothers name, maybe I can find them in 1911 census!

Is this your grandmother in 1911?

MORGON, Alice Head Widow F 42 1869 Charing London Camberwell VIEW
CLARK, John Son Single M 19 1892 Railway Porter London Peckham VIEW
CLARK, Henry Son Single M 17 1894 Grocers Assistant London Peckham VIEW
MORGON, Alice Daughter F 5 1906 London Camberwell VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6862 Reference:
RG14PN6862 RG78PN342 RD128 SD3 ED9 SN305

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Hanwell Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
Hanwell

Address:
81 Studley Grange Road Hanwell W County:
Middlesex

>>Her parents marriage?

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Clark Alice Camberwell 1d 1614
MORGON Thomas Henry Camberwell 1d 1614

Her fathers death?

Deaths Jun 1905 (>99%)
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Morgon Thomas Henry 40 Lambeth 1d 144a

1901:
Name: Thomas H Morgon
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Julia
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 180 Camberwell Rd

Occupation: Hairdresser

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas H Morgon 36
Julia Morgon 35 born Westend, London, England
Charles Barrett 46

Only births in 1905 that I can see:-

Births Sep 1905 (>99%)
Morgon Alice Henrietta Camberwell 1d 846
Morgon Lily Jane M Greenwich 1d 1117

................sorry just reread your thread and you have already given your Grandmother's name!
Must be all this buzzing noise going on in the background!
Hubby is watching the match!

Wonder if this could be the death of his first wife?

Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
MORGON Julia 37 Camberwell 1d 490
(makes dob 1865)

Name: Julia Morgon
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 37
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 490 (click to see others on page)

Name: Thomas Henry Morgon
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 40
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 144a (click to see others on page)


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Name: Thomas Henry Morgon
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 1614 (click to see others on page)

Alice Clark 1903 Camberwell Greater London, London, Surrey

Name: Thomas Henry Morgon
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: St George Southwark
County: Surrey
Volume: 1D
Page: 129 (click to see others on page)

Name: Julia Newitt
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 60 (click to see others on page)

Very possibly my grand mother in 1911 - however my mother refers to uncles Harry and Jack Clark. I wonder if there were other brothers to Henry and John. I guess Harry could have been short for Harold?

Name: Alice Clark
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberwell, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
John Clark 35
Alice Clark 32
John Clark 9
Harry Clark 7


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could be Johns death

Name: John Clark
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 34
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 421 (click to see others on page)

Name: John Clark
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 1034 (click to see others on page)

Alice Homewood 1891 Camberwell Greater London, London, Surrey

Name: Alice Phoebe Homewood
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 619 (click to see others on page)

Just thinking - if Alice Morgon married Thomas Henry Morgon in 1903 and had Alice Henrietta Morgon in 1905, who must she have been married to have sons that included CLARK, John Son Single M 19 1892 Railway Porter London Peckham, and CLARK, Henry Son Single M 17 1894 Grocers Assistant London Peckham. What would have been her maiden name?

Also, were there any children born to Thomas Henry Morgon and Julia Newitt?

Name: Alice Homewood
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberwell, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 256
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Homewood 42
Frances Homewood 40
Thomas W Homewood 14
Emma S Homewood 10
Henery Homewood 8
Frances Homewood 6
Robert Homewood 4
Alice Homewood 2
Frederick Homewood 2 months


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Helen I have given you her marriage and birth details plus a census

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It looks like Thomas a Julia married in Australia as you said so if you can find someone who does Australian look ups that may help

Looks like Alice and John Clark only had the two children

And Thomas and Julia did'nt have any children with them in 1901 so either no they didnt have any or they could be away somewhere hard to tell really

jax

Does anyone have any idea as to the parents, brothers and sisters for Thomas Henry Morgon?

I cannot see any census with him on as a child so maybe he went to Australia with his parents before 1871. The only other way to find out who his parents were is to order his birth certificate to be sure

jax

I'ld go with Sydney - there is/was a St Michael's, Sydney abt 7 m NW of downtown - I was a bit thrown by the Victoria on the schedule, since Sydney's in NSW, but then I realized 19 Victoria is a regnal year like you get dating laws, etc.